Comments on: 5 Reasons Why Windows Users Beware of Macs http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/ Helping Normal People Get Their Geek On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Switch to Mac Begins | PCMechhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-46224 The Switch to Mac Begins | PCMech Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:04:13 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-46224 [...] wrote at the beginning of last week that I was thinking about buying a Mac Pro. Well, last night I fell off my wallet and did exactly that. So, yes, the owner of PC Mechanic, a [...] [...] wrote at the beginning of last week that I was thinking about buying a Mac Pro. Well, last night I fell off my wallet and did exactly that. So, yes, the owner of PC Mechanic, a [...]

]]> By: Ronhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-36651 Ron Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:31:59 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-36651 last paragraph and first 2 lines looks like a conflict of words if you corner a market done it not eventually become a monopoly its what they all do as Iv been using my EVGA780i,Core2Quad,with 8 G of DDR2 1066MHz memory dualboot Windows XP/7 and a few of my friends have macs Im very happy just where I an and in a few years I will build me a power house i7 based gaming rig with out worry if the hardware of software will work with it and with what I have and will save I think I will think the wife to redlobster tonight and every night the in 2010 last paragraph and first 2 lines looks like a conflict of words if you corner a market done it not eventually become a monopoly its what they all do as Iv been using my EVGA780i,Core2Quad,with 8 G of DDR2 1066MHz memory dualboot Windows XP/7 and a few of my friends have macs Im very happy just where I an and in a few years I will build me a power house i7 based gaming rig with out worry if the hardware of software will work with it and with what I have and will save I think I will think the wife to redlobster tonight and every night the in 2010

]]> By: Rickhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-32623 Rick Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:05:12 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-32623 I believe this: first, Mac OS is a lot more stable than Windows, because it has no registry system that builds up without any chance for us to completely cleaning it, not even with registry softwares, that it will eventually bogs the system down to it's knee (especially if you like to try install/uninstall a lot of softwares). Second, Windows is much more preferred by software vendors, ironically because it has the registry system to put something without any concern from the average users, which is to prevent further, say, piracy, or to spy the user or something like that (just imagine you as a software vendor, what would you put in there...?). I believe this: first, Mac OS is a lot more stable than Windows, because it has no registry system that builds up without any chance for us to completely cleaning it, not even with registry softwares, that it will eventually bogs the system down to it’s knee (especially if you like to try install/uninstall a lot of softwares). Second, Windows is much more preferred by software vendors, ironically because it has the registry system to put something without any concern from the average users, which is to prevent further, say, piracy, or to spy the user or something like that (just imagine you as a software vendor, what would you put in there…?).

]]> By: Kevhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-32446 Kev Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:51:41 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-32446 The PC was around a lot longer before the Mac came around. Sure, Mac has innovative design and software, but they don't have the right price tag to back it all up. Now i'm pretty sure that Windows 7 will be a right b-tch to get when it's released. I would think along the lines of £200 to get the CD on it's own. But it would still be better than OSX. Because, from what i've heard, it would blow OSX away.I've used the PC for years, i've never gotten bored of it. I love it new that i have my new computer. But i hate the fact that all the "MacTards", as you've rightly said, are just annoying as hell. My friend has been bugging me to get one, but i'm not going to.... it's way too expensive IMO. The PC was around a lot longer before the Mac came around. Sure, Mac has innovative design and software, but they don’t have the right price tag to back it all up. Now i’m pretty sure that Windows 7 will be a right b-tch to get when it’s released. I would think along the lines of £200 to get the CD on it’s own. But it would still be better than OSX. Because, from what i’ve heard, it would blow OSX away.

I’ve used the PC for years, i’ve never gotten bored of it. I love it new that i have my new computer. But i hate the fact that all the “MacTards”, as you’ve rightly said, are just annoying as hell. My friend has been bugging me to get one, but i’m not going to…. it’s way too expensive IMO.

]]> By: Robhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-9367 Rob Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:36:12 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-9367 Well, I was a PC enthusiast like many of you are, spent ages building computer systems, tinkering with windows 95, 98 then 2000 & XP. My fondest memories of PCs are with games, no doubt about it. But then I got fed up with all the BS of windows: occasional random crashes, a few BSODs, slow downs, and many reinstalls over the years. I suddenly realised that (1) I hate tweaking computer systems to get them to work (2) I didn't want to know anymore about the ins and outs of pc configs, the latest mobos, ram timings, graphics cards etc - a complete waste of time learning and reading about this stuff, use this time to chase down your dreams imho!A friend of mine bought a macmini in 2006, I told him he was f***ing nuts! Overpriced, overhyped, incompatible garbage! He bought a MacBook in late 2006 and showed me the basics of OSX. It was a true revelation.I bought a black macbook in 2007 and the obligatory copy of Parallels and WinXP. I went back and forth between my windows gaming rig and the mac for about 3 weeks. Then I firesale'd my PC and all the associated peripheral clutter, bought an apple wireless keyboard and mouse and a tasty 22" lcd and everything has been fantastic. I find myself transformed as a user, every time I use the mac, it makes me grin. So easy to use, so nice to look at, and I am very productive on it - more so than with windows. I don't use Windows at all, not even parallels - hell I'm grinning now :)To address some points by the author, macs definitely cost more. But for the pleasure of using OSX and using nicely designed hardware, its easily worth the premium. Its also been my experience that most 3rd party software for OSX is very, very good and worth your money, whereas I found it more of a mixed bag with WinXP.The Apple hype machine is definitely over the top and frankly unnecessary. I think the products speak for themselves, and the over-advertising is, well, unnecessary.Its true that hardware customisation is far more limited with Apple - but the act of tinkering, that hardware-centric, spec-geek mentality (like I had) is actually a product of the Wintel experience. When the platform is no longer the limiting factor and you never need to worry about viruses, bugs in software, slowdowns etc, all you are left with is to use your time in creative, productive ways, which of course, is very satisfying.The next decade will belong to Apple, I think the young people get it (generally speaking). Its really about how you use your time, what you want to achieve when you sit in front the computer, not the tweaking and geeking with it. Get on it, achieve what you want and get off and do something else - I think Macs will allow more people to do this and with greater ease. The new-found popularity of macs will inevitably increase the number of games and all types of software for the platform, and hardware will get better and better - these Core 2 Duo processors are amazing already, so the futures of cpu/gpu and chipset features are going to be great.Finally, I don't think its good for any one company to hold a monopoly (Microsoft is of course infamous for this). I have no doubt that Apple will take every opportunity to corner every market in which it competes, so I hope that Microsoft can learn something and get past the abortive mess of Vista to present a strong alternative. Linux variants will never succeed as an alternative OS for the masses unless they can deliver an OSX-like experience in every sense -> and that is probably not possible without controlling hardware configuration also. Computers are just tools to achieve your ends. LIfe for me has been better since getting a Mac, precisely because I spend less time using and working on computers! Peace. Well, I was a PC enthusiast like many of you are, spent ages building computer systems, tinkering with windows 95, 98 then 2000 & XP. My fondest memories of PCs are with games, no doubt about it. But then I got fed up with all the BS of windows: occasional random crashes, a few BSODs, slow downs, and many reinstalls over the years. I suddenly realised that (1) I hate tweaking computer systems to get them to work (2) I didn’t want to know anymore about the ins and outs of pc configs, the latest mobos, ram timings, graphics cards etc – a complete waste of time learning and reading about this stuff, use this time to chase down your dreams imho!

A friend of mine bought a macmini in 2006, I told him he was f***ing nuts! Overpriced, overhyped, incompatible garbage! He bought a MacBook in late 2006 and showed me the basics of OSX. It was a true revelation.

I bought a black macbook in 2007 and the obligatory copy of Parallels and WinXP. I went back and forth between my windows gaming rig and the mac for about 3 weeks. Then I firesale’d my PC and all the associated peripheral clutter, bought an apple wireless keyboard and mouse and a tasty 22″ lcd and everything has been fantastic. I find myself transformed as a user, every time I use the mac, it makes me grin. So easy to use, so nice to look at, and I am very productive on it – more so than with windows. I don’t use Windows at all, not even parallels – hell I’m grinning now :)

To address some points by the author, macs definitely cost more. But for the pleasure of using OSX and using nicely designed hardware, its easily worth the premium. Its also been my experience that most 3rd party software for OSX is very, very good and worth your money, whereas I found it more of a mixed bag with WinXP.

The Apple hype machine is definitely over the top and frankly unnecessary. I think the products speak for themselves, and the over-advertising is, well, unnecessary.

Its true that hardware customisation is far more limited with Apple – but the act of tinkering, that hardware-centric, spec-geek mentality (like I had) is actually a product of the Wintel experience. When the platform is no longer the limiting factor and you never need to worry about viruses, bugs in software, slowdowns etc, all you are left with is to use your time in creative, productive ways, which of course, is very satisfying.

The next decade will belong to Apple, I think the young people get it (generally speaking). Its really about how you use your time, what you want to achieve when you sit in front the computer, not the tweaking and geeking with it. Get on it, achieve what you want and get off and do something else – I think Macs will allow more people to do this and with greater ease. The new-found popularity of macs will inevitably increase the number of games and all types of software for the platform, and hardware will get better and better – these Core 2 Duo processors are amazing already, so the futures of cpu/gpu and chipset features are going to be great.

Finally, I don’t think its good for any one company to hold a monopoly (Microsoft is of course infamous for this). I have no doubt that Apple will take every opportunity to corner every market in which it competes, so I hope that Microsoft can learn something and get past the abortive mess of Vista to present a strong alternative. Linux variants will never succeed as an alternative OS for the masses unless they can deliver an OSX-like experience in every sense -> and that is probably not possible without controlling hardware configuration also. Computers are just tools to achieve your ends. LIfe for me has been better since getting a Mac, precisely because I spend less time using and working on computers! Peace.

]]> By: Mac User Report: Am I Turning Mactard? » PCMechhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-8047 Mac User Report: Am I Turning Mactard? » PCMech Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:24:14 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-8047 [...] is also a long time Windows user, however he is also a big fan of Linux. Rich, though, is not a fan of Apple. He did have a quick attempt at buying a Mac before I ever met him and ended up returning it rather [...] [...] is also a long time Windows user, however he is also a big fan of Linux. Rich, though, is not a fan of Apple. He did have a quick attempt at buying a Mac before I ever met him and ended up returning it rather [...]

]]> By: Arnie Schlisselhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-6733 Arnie Schlissel Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:05:45 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-6733 While I would agree that Mac Minis are waaaay overpriced, Mac Pros are actually a pretty good value. Compare the cost of a Mac Pro to a Dell or HP or Boxx workstation that's configured as closely as possible, it will be at least 90-95% of the price. It may even cost more. These are premium workstations, they cost a premium price no matter who you get them from.Also, it's fairly easy to add or change a hard drive in a Mac Pro. It's no more difficult to add memory or PCIe cards than in any other computer in a decent case. Of course with a Mac Mini or iMac, you'll need a can opener or maybe a cutting torch to make any upgrades. While I would agree that Mac Minis are waaaay overpriced, Mac Pros are actually a pretty good value. Compare the cost of a Mac Pro to a Dell or HP or Boxx workstation that’s configured as closely as possible, it will be at least 90-95% of the price. It may even cost more. These are premium workstations, they cost a premium price no matter who you get them from.

Also, it’s fairly easy to add or change a hard drive in a Mac Pro. It’s no more difficult to add memory or PCIe cards than in any other computer in a decent case. Of course with a Mac Mini or iMac, you’ll need a can opener or maybe a cutting torch to make any upgrades.

]]> By: Best PCMech Posts of 2007 » PC Mechanichttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-6573 Best PCMech Posts of 2007 » PC Mechanic Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:18:39 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-6573 [...] 5 Reasons Why Windows Users Beware of Macs We have pissed off the Mac user army more than once around here. Now that I am myself a Mac user, I tried to lay out, from the viewpoint of a longtime Windows user, why I was hesitant to switch to the Mac. [...] [...] 5 Reasons Why Windows Users Beware of Macs We have pissed off the Mac user army more than once around here. Now that I am myself a Mac user, I tried to lay out, from the viewpoint of a longtime Windows user, why I was hesitant to switch to the Mac. [...]

]]> By: Keflerhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-3382 Kefler Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:20:03 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-3382 The point about mac resale value being better, well that's not really a point, you paid 1.2x the money to get a mac and you get the difference back when you sell it. With that being said, when you get that money back, that alone wont cover your new mac, OH NO, there goes another.. what ? $1000, $1500 to cover the difference of your new Mac.Intel mac being able to install windows now... Think this through logically and you'll find a stupid flaw in that. 50% if not more of the new 64bit inte/amd processors that come out now have the requirements to fully install Mac OS on your PC, yes that's right, what now mac ? you just made a fatal flaw when you switched out from using PPC processors.Mac computers come equiped with nice hardware indeed. Yea, so can PC's and at a cheaper price.Mac users don't need to worry about viruses, it was based on the sturdy foundation of unix. Wake up and smell the coffee, PC + Linux = "no viruses" and cheaper.Mac OS is ready to go as a server operating system. Linux is ready to go as a server operating system and it runs on both machines. Not to mention running it on a PC will cost you less, or even a U-rackmount server will still cost you less than it would for a mac."It just works", my pc does more than work, I can play all the latest games, run every software mac can, oh wait that's because all the software available for mac was made for pc and/or linux first. I dare you mac users to install Lineage2 on Mac OS, go ahead, try it. I dare you mac users to setup a LAMP configuration, have fun with the mac OS command prompt because that's the only way you'll get access to the directories you'll need to configure everything. Does Mac still just work ?As an early joke on IBM's when mac came out, "Don't trust a pc any farther than you can throw it", well, we'll see how far you can throw your mac =)Mac gaining ground on application compatability... I think they are mistaken, Mac isn't gaining ground, PC is winning over mac because Mac moved out of their stupid PPC world and into, yes that's right "PC" hardware, now they gloat about being able to us Microsoft products. Sorry Mac, we've been able to do that since the early IBM days =)Being a user of all 3 operating systems, my rant about mac's isn't out of hate for macs, nor a love for windows. I've used Mac's at work, I use a PC at home, I will NEVER purchase a Mac unless they can match the prices of PC's, match all software compatibility, I can buy it from my local computer store, and build my own.Does Mac have it's upsides ? imo, no. Every point I've ever heard from Apple, Mac users, and my own experience with Mac's and Mac OS, Mac has nothing on PC's as far as I can see.One more challenge for Mac users, Uninstall something. Go on, "It just works" right ?, so uninstall something. Better yet, how about a PC user and a Mac user install 2000 pieces of software and then uninstall them and see how bloated each machine is.Sorry mac, but as far as I know, you can't actually "Uninstall" software on a mac, you can only delete it's files manually. Have fun finding all the files that are left on your Mac after you delete the applications folder.Wait a second !, does mac even have 2000 pieces of software they can install ? The point about mac resale value being better, well that’s not really a point, you paid 1.2x the money to get a mac and you get the difference back when you sell it. With that being said, when you get that money back, that alone wont cover your new mac, OH NO, there goes another.. what ? $1000, $1500
to cover the difference of your new Mac.

Intel mac being able to install windows now…
Think this through logically and you’ll find a stupid flaw in that. 50% if not more of the new 64bit inte/amd processors that come out now have the requirements to fully install Mac OS on your PC, yes that’s right, what now mac ? you just made a fatal flaw when you switched out from using PPC processors.

Mac computers come equiped with nice hardware indeed.
Yea, so can PC’s and at a cheaper price.

Mac users don’t need to worry about viruses, it was based on the sturdy foundation of unix. Wake up and smell the coffee, PC + Linux = “no viruses” and cheaper.

Mac OS is ready to go as a server operating system.
Linux is ready to go as a server operating system and it runs on both machines. Not to mention running it on a PC will cost you less, or even a U-rackmount server will still cost you less than it would for a mac.

“It just works”, my pc does more than work, I can play all the latest games, run every software mac can, oh wait that’s because all the software available for mac was made for pc and/or linux first. I dare you mac users to install Lineage2 on Mac OS, go ahead, try it. I dare you mac users to setup a LAMP configuration, have fun with the mac OS command prompt because that’s the only way you’ll get access to the directories you’ll need to configure everything. Does Mac still just work ?

As an early joke on IBM’s when mac came out, “Don’t trust a pc any farther than you can throw it”, well, we’ll see how far you can throw your mac =)

Mac gaining ground on application compatability…
I think they are mistaken, Mac isn’t gaining ground, PC is winning over mac because Mac moved out of their stupid PPC world and into, yes that’s right “PC” hardware, now they gloat about being able to us Microsoft products. Sorry Mac, we’ve been able to do that since the early IBM days =)

Being a user of all 3 operating systems, my rant about mac’s isn’t out of hate for macs, nor a love for windows.
I’ve used Mac’s at work, I use a PC at home, I will NEVER purchase a Mac unless they can match the prices of PC’s, match all software compatibility, I can buy it from my local computer store, and build my own.

Does Mac have it’s upsides ?
imo, no. Every point I’ve ever heard from Apple, Mac users, and my own experience with Mac’s and Mac OS, Mac has nothing on PC’s as far as I can see.

One more challenge for Mac users, Uninstall something. Go on, “It just works” right ?, so uninstall something. Better yet, how about a PC user and a Mac user install 2000 pieces of software and then uninstall them and see how bloated each machine is.

Sorry mac, but as far as I know, you can’t actually “Uninstall” software on a mac, you can only delete it’s files manually. Have fun finding all the files that are left on your Mac after you delete the applications folder.

Wait a second !, does mac even have 2000 pieces of software they can install ?

]]> By: Alexhttp://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/comment-page-1/#comment-2895 Alex Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:06:03 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/5-reasons-why-windows-users-beware-of-macs/#comment-2895 I think Apple did a very smart thing to allow Windows onto their Macs because now it allows PC users like me to consider using one. I now have the option to try out OS-X and see what all the hype is about while still maintaining my familiarity with Windows and be able to use all the software and future softare I may purchase in the future. Aesthetically speaking, the mac wins hands down, but I do find it funny how mac users can talk about how great their OS is but only has roughly 10% of 3rd party software available to it compared to PCs. I think Apple did a very smart thing to allow Windows onto their Macs because now it allows PC users like me to consider using one. I now have the option to try out OS-X and see what all the hype is about while still maintaining my familiarity with Windows and be able to use all the software and future softare I may purchase in the future. Aesthetically speaking, the mac wins hands down, but I do find it funny how mac users can talk about how great their OS is but only has roughly 10% of 3rd party software available to it compared to PCs.

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