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	<title>Comments on: Build Your Own Mac &#8211; Apple&#8217;s Key to the Future?</title>
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		<title>By: Arjun</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/build-your-own-mac-apple-key-to-the-future/comment-page-2/#comment-34369</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok you know what hey. I agree completely with the author. I am running an Ipc. Intel core 2 quad with 4 gigs of ram etc ASUS mother board. Sure it was a bit of a hack to get it running, but well worth it. I am strongly considdering buying a mac, but you know what its just not worth the cash layout. You guys think you have it bad try buy one in south africa. $2297 for an entry level Imac. you could pay almost that for the I7. Any way point is I have a entry level 8 series nvidia card runs two monitors dead normal box, and I have to admit its magic. I work with adobe photoshop flash dreamweaver flex builder and can have them all running at the same time while running Bind Tomcat mysql virtualbox with xp and a dedicated gig of ram to run visual studio all at once without my pc failing. So Kevin please stop talking crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok you know what hey. I agree completely with the author. I am running an Ipc. Intel core 2 quad with 4 gigs of ram etc ASUS mother board. Sure it was a bit of a hack to get it running, but well worth it. I am strongly considdering buying a mac, but you know what its just not worth the cash layout. You guys think you have it bad try buy one in south africa. $2297 for an entry level Imac. you could pay almost that for the I7. Any way point is I have a entry level 8 series nvidia card runs two monitors dead normal box, and I have to admit its magic. I work with adobe photoshop flash dreamweaver flex builder and can have them all running at the same time while running Bind Tomcat mysql virtualbox with xp and a dedicated gig of ram to run visual studio all at once without my pc failing. So Kevin please stop talking crap.</p>
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		<title>By: sdc</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh by the way with windows 7 is fantastic, no crash or need to restart for 9 months now and with it at release canidate is the most solid windows ever!!!!!!!
add the i7 and see ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh by the way with windows 7 is fantastic, no crash or need to restart for 9 months now and with it at release canidate is the most solid windows ever!!!!!!!<br />
add the i7 and see ya.</p>
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		<title>By: sdc</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can get a board for that with all the extras and built to oc if you pleas for under three hundred with sli.
Hech my regular pc is a gigabyte socket 775 and is rated at 4.5 with win but when it comes to overclocking without having to do oyher than air-even in a 90 degree day without ac is incredable at 4.08 gigahertz.
only the aftermarket boards will give what is needed. socket 1333 with an soon to be released i7 will cost about he same but is so much faster and very solid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can get a board for that with all the extras and built to oc if you pleas for under three hundred with sli.<br />
Hech my regular pc is a gigabyte socket 775 and is rated at 4.5 with win but when it comes to overclocking without having to do oyher than air-even in a 90 degree day without ac is incredable at 4.08 gigahertz.<br />
only the aftermarket boards will give what is needed. socket 1333 with an soon to be released i7 will cost about he same but is so much faster and very solid.</p>
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		<title>By: Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is entirely possible--and quite easy at that--to build your own mac these days (though note, it is illegal due to a violation of Apple&#039;s license).  There are several hacked editions of OS X that allow them to be installed on a non-Apple computer.  While drivers are limited, it works as long as you have the right hardware.  Some of them even support AMD processors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is entirely possible&#8211;and quite easy at that&#8211;to build your own mac these days (though note, it is illegal due to a violation of Apple&#8217;s license).  There are several hacked editions of OS X that allow them to be installed on a non-Apple computer.  While drivers are limited, it works as long as you have the right hardware.  Some of them even support AMD processors.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait a minute... &quot;Us PC users are from a more open-minded background and maybe some of us would like to see some change in Apple’s business model.&quot;

I hope you&#039;re not using the term open minded business, and yet run Windows on your computer at home.  If so, I call you a hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait a minute&#8230; &#8220;Us PC users are from a more open-minded background and maybe some of us would like to see some change in Apple’s business model.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re not using the term open minded business, and yet run Windows on your computer at home.  If so, I call you a hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/build-your-own-mac-apple-key-to-the-future/comment-page-2/#comment-10244</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually they can&#039;t be had cheaper. I proved that with my list of all the parts to build the machine. Can POS hardware be found cheaper? Sure, of course it can, but you get what you pay for.

Do you want PCI-e 2.0? Do you want a FSB of 800 mhtz? Do you want more than one x16 PCI-e slot? Ok, so find me a board with all of those (all of which the apple board has) for under $500.

For that matter, give me a FULL list of your parts which will be as powerful as the spec&#039;ed out Apple and is significantly cheaper.

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually they can&#8217;t be had cheaper. I proved that with my list of all the parts to build the machine. Can POS hardware be found cheaper? Sure, of course it can, but you get what you pay for.</p>
<p>Do you want PCI-e 2.0? Do you want a FSB of 800 mhtz? Do you want more than one x16 PCI-e slot? Ok, so find me a board with all of those (all of which the apple board has) for under $500.</p>
<p>For that matter, give me a FULL list of your parts which will be as powerful as the spec&#8217;ed out Apple and is significantly cheaper.</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: hitchface</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitchface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Before you spout off about who is being an idiot, check yourself. 4 gigs of FBDIMM ram STILL only costs about 200 bucks, and the CPU difference in price is negligible at best. Even though I did forget the motherboard, 500 dollars is selective. I found Intel boards down to $300, if we wanna talk specifics.

I&#039;m not talking about Dell or HP...everyone knows OEM vendors rip you off. However, Apple does it more than others. The price of SSDs in their machines already cost 300 dollars more than Dell&#039;s does! I&#039;m talking about BUILDING YOUR OWN (hence, DIY) computer. The parts CAN be had for cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Before you spout off about who is being an idiot, check yourself. 4 gigs of FBDIMM ram STILL only costs about 200 bucks, and the CPU difference in price is negligible at best. Even though I did forget the motherboard, 500 dollars is selective. I found Intel boards down to $300, if we wanna talk specifics.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about Dell or HP&#8230;everyone knows OEM vendors rip you off. However, Apple does it more than others. The price of SSDs in their machines already cost 300 dollars more than Dell&#8217;s does! I&#8217;m talking about BUILDING YOUR OWN (hence, DIY) computer. The parts CAN be had for cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Mortal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to do it yourself, you deserve to be stuck with windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to do it yourself, you deserve to be stuck with windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 04:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and before anyone calls me an &quot;apple fanboy&quot; or some such... I&#039;m running Leopard on my OC&#039;d Q6600, not a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and before anyone calls me an &#8220;apple fanboy&#8221; or some such&#8230; I&#8217;m running Leopard on my OC&#8217;d Q6600, not a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 04:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitch...
You&#039;re an idiot. Seriously. We are talking about server/workstation grade hardware. You can&#039;t run a xeon with anything but FBDIMM so your PC8500 won&#039;t work. Oh, and you picked the wrong Xeon CPU&#039;s (the 3.18 is FSB 1333, the Mac Pro is using newer FSB 1600). Oh, and you forgot the motherboard. The motherboard is $500 by it self. Welcome to the world of expensive hardware. 

Here is a _real_ comparison of a home built Mac Pro, and an actual Mac Pro:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032469135&amp;postcount=16

Notice the difference, ~ $250 (the cost of the extra 2g of ram in the home built;)

Apple is hardware vendor. Like all hardware vendors, including Dell, HP, Gateway, Sun, EMC, etc they screw their customers on upgrades. No one complains when these other companies do it, why do they bitch so much about Apple?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitch&#8230;<br />
You&#8217;re an idiot. Seriously. We are talking about server/workstation grade hardware. You can&#8217;t run a xeon with anything but FBDIMM so your PC8500 won&#8217;t work. Oh, and you picked the wrong Xeon CPU&#8217;s (the 3.18 is FSB 1333, the Mac Pro is using newer FSB 1600). Oh, and you forgot the motherboard. The motherboard is $500 by it self. Welcome to the world of expensive hardware. </p>
<p>Here is a _real_ comparison of a home built Mac Pro, and an actual Mac Pro:<br />
<a href="http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032469135&amp;postcount=16" rel="nofollow">http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1032469135&amp;postcount=16</a></p>
<p>Notice the difference, ~ $250 (the cost of the extra 2g of ram in the home built;)</p>
<p>Apple is hardware vendor. Like all hardware vendors, including Dell, HP, Gateway, Sun, EMC, etc they screw their customers on upgrades. No one complains when these other companies do it, why do they bitch so much about Apple?</p>
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