Floppy Diskette Finally Coming To An End

CNET reports that Sony, which has 70% of the market with floppies (and that’s nothing to brag about), is going to stop selling floppies in Japan as of March 2011. This means this positively ancient data storage medium is finally going away. You’ve seen floppies for sale at Wal-Mart, Target and other dept. stores and couldn’t figure out why they were there. Blame Sony as they were the ones still making them. After they stop, the floppy should very quickly disappear from the shelves.

Some quick questions answered for our younger readers.

Why is it called a floppy?

It’s a nickname for “floppy diskette”.

Why is it called a diskette?

That’s meant to denote a smaller version of a hard disk. You have a disk, then the diskette. This is similar to cigar and cigarette.

Why is it called a floppy when it’s not physically floppy?

The predecessor 5.25-inch floppy diskette was flexible. And in fact the 3.5-inch diskette media was flexible as well, but the casing was not. Technically speaking, calling a 3.5-inch floppy diskette a floppy is accurate.

What’s the “CH” imprinted next to the flap?

You’re reading it upside down. It’s “HD”, meaning high-density. Prior to that was double-density, which sounds like more than high-density, but it wasn’t.

What was the first floppy diskette?

A large honkin’ 8-inch format called IBM 23FD, introduced in 1971. It was read-only. One year after that came the Memorex 650 in 1972, also an 8-inch. It had read/write capability.

The first 5.25-inch was the Shugart SA 400, introduced in 1976.

The first 3.5-inch was made by HP in 1982, single-sided of course.

3.5-inch high-density floppy disks came about in 1987.

Was 1.44MB the largest amount of data that could be stored on a floppy?

No. There was the 2.88MB, also introduced in 1987, the “Floptical” which could store 21MB, the LS-120 which could store 120MB, the LS-240 which could store 240MB and a Sony proprietary format called HiFD, which could store 150MB or 200MB.

Is the Zipdisk format a floppy?

Although never called as such, technically it is because the storage medium inside the hard case is flexible.

Why didn’t the larger format floppy formats ever truly replace the 1.44MB 3.5-inch?

A few reasons.

The media for anything other than a 1.44MB was prohibitively expensive, not to mention replacing your floppy disk drive with a special format was also priced too high.

All operating system diskettes were either on 5.25 or 3.5-inch diskettes. If the replacement FDD you used wasn’t backward compatible, you couldn’t reinstall your operating system.

If you used a special format of floppy, you were usually the only one who had it. This means you couldn’t share data with anybody because they didn’t have the same FDD you did.

Compact Discs were a much better solution because you had 650MB at your disposal (later bumped to 700MB), they wrote faster and you could install a burner drive without touching the floppy drive. Furthermore the industry readily distributed newer software titles on CD, so there was added familiarity as well with the format.

My take on floppy disks

Happy to see them go. I always hated them. :)

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  • Jase

    Timely article here Rich

    Just this week I’ve been making images of my floppy disk collection seeing as I realised its been a while since I touched one.

    one problem I’ve spotted though, if you didnt have a floppy drive or disk handy, how would you start a pc that doesn’t have the ability to boot from cd or usb encorporated in the bios, (I do still have a few such machines here by the way.) – this’d be the only task I still use them for

    • http://www.menga.net Rich Menga

      I think what you’re meaning to ask is, “Is there such a thing as a FDD-to-USB adapter?”, meaning a FDD 34-pin connector to USB, where the end USB would have a bootable flash drive connected to it. The answer is no, it does not exist as far as I’m aware.

      • Jase

        no, Rich I was asking the question I asked.

        for the purposes of that question, lets say the machine i mention is a 386 with a 100MB hard drive.

        if say I needed to reload dos 5.0 or 6.22, how would I go about that, without a floppy drive. given you cant boot directly from a usb drive or even cd drive with one of those machines.

        • http://www.menga.net Rich Menga

          If I were placed in that scenario, what I would do is physically take the HDD out of the 386, put in another PC that could boot from optical, install FreeDOS, any extra utilities I needed, then put back in the original machine. The FreeDOS minimum system requirements are an 8088 CPU with 512k RAM. It also is distributed on both floppies and bootable CD. It’s also compatible with Windows 3.1, so if you need to install that, it would work.

          You could also jury-rig a bootable CD to install MS-DOS 5 or 6.22 with Nero Burning ROM, but I wouldn’t bother when FreeDOS is ready to go with its own CD-bootable edition and does the job just fine.

          • Jase

            I figured that may be the case, looks like I may need to carry a spare machine around with me now instead of just a pile of floppies or cds. – major pain that’ll be. – I have a mostly elderly clientbase, they’re generally finicky about me taking their gear away.

            I’ve already got a ‘jury rigged’ cd of dos 6.22 – made one about 4 years ago, but found I actually need the floppies more often.
            I have FreeDOS also

  • bud

    I have lots of old recorded files on floppies. Some are interesting just like the old home movie films. Will someone convert these to CD?

  • Kidd

    What’s the ‘CH’?….. hilarious…….
    My company still has a bunch of iomega 100 MB zip disks laying around from the late ’90s, and no drive to use them in.

    • http://www.menga.net Rich Menga

      If a Zip drive does one day come into the shop, here’s a fun way to pass the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37rLJjP0kWk

      • Jase

        I have zip drives given to me from time to time, – always without the disks though.

        that vid is cool!!!

  • John

    What forever amasses, and disturb.es, me is that the IT department where I work still uses zip drives for the daily system backup. I work the night shift and it occurs at 0200. ocassionally I find myself calling the IT tech at 0230 when the entire network is still down and we are dead in the water as far as our operation (i.e. a small rural hospital) is concerned.

    • http://www.menga.net Rich Menga

      You’d at least think they’d spring for something a tad more reliable like a jaz drive (also made by the same company who did zip, except it uses tape).

  • http://moneyandrisk.com Kim

    I gave up trying to convert files from my floppies to new technologies a while ago. I really thought they have been extinct for years.

    Unfortunately, I do have zip disks which I don’t know what is stored in them.

  • http://www.lockerztr.com lockerz

    I love new technology which is bluray :D

  • Zolta

    My PC loves floppys an i love my PC !.
    A small tip when you have a PC casing with fans on the side as i do ! ( the small fans ) if you take the fan off break open the floppy and remove the white material from each side you then place that between the fan and the case and refit fan you have free air filters and less dust inside your case !.
    I have a Zip drive and disks but it is the Zip-250 although it takes the 100 disks also there was also a Zip-750 so in its day close to a CD rom, Mega storage not ! But if anyone should want one its in its box with disks and was only used about 3 times or i could just sell it on ebay Retro Computing mega cash ! lol

    • Rojones2563

      Do you still have the zip drive? I've been trying to find one as I have some zip disks I need to get some stuff off of. How much would you want for it? You can contact me at rojones2563@roadrunner.com

      Richard

  • http://www.bigsavingswarehouse.com/ CD Storage Cases

    Diskette can store only 1 MB which is only a part of the USB drives that are available today. Diskettes are also more prone to damages and data corrupts. Since the rise of USB's and CD's, diskettes are already come to an end.

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