My friend, Kyle Graham, did a video where he openly declared that his PC will kill my Mac. He compared his experience with his expensive Macbook to his experience with his $400 PC.
Now, I can’t let this ballsy maneuver go without a response, can I? So, I recorded a video response.
Oh, and sorry for the weirdism happening at the beginning of the video. I’m working on it.
Let me dissect Kyle’s points here:
- Airport card died. Sorry about that, man. All I can say is that I have 3 Macs and have had literally no problems with any of them. I think you might have a defective Mac.
- Mac is super expensive. Yep, you’re paying for the fruit. However, they are powerful machines that last a long time.
- Mac users are like a cult. Cute stereotype, but most Mac users aren’t like that.
- Everything has to come through Apple. Not true. I don’t buy anything except the computer from Apple. Everything else comes from third-party vendors. There is nothing about my Mac that I feel I can’t do because of Apple.
- Expensive cable for hooking up your monitor. What? I had a cable come with my Mac and I can plug any monitor into my Macs. I didn’t have to spend any money on weird cables. Oh, and yes, the Apple monitors are ridiculously overpriced.
- Apple won’t allow you to do everything with your computer. Again, what? Find me ONE thing that I cannot pull off with my Macs. This claim might be true with the Iphone, but not the Mac. You can do anything you want with it.
All in all, Kyle has some good points. Yes, Apple is pricey. It gives the PC guys reason to rip on Apple.
Alright, PC Mech’ers. Rip me up. Go! 
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what? idiot you cannot open a mac voids warranty and they will give you zero support i have NEVER seen a mac mod ive seen pcs with OSX on them but thats it its all about what you can do with it
Mac Fanboys have to come to defend their computer because it was so expensive; they have to justify their purchase
The failure in your argument is that you run Ford on your Chevy — why the h@#$ would I want to run Mac OS on my Windows machine.
The fact that you find it important, useful, and cool that you can run Windows on your Mac is really dumb.
Best wishes /jim
maybe because there are all sorts of programs out there that can be ran on windows but not Mac, because Mac is not as popular as windows.
I had a laptop with vista on it, it sucked so bad that i went to Ubuntu. I also have a 2 year old mac book pro that i use all the time. It starts up quicker than vista, it always downloads faster; it is just all around better.
HA HA! That vid was entertaining. I have an old P4 640HT 3.2GHz on an old ECS RS400-A mobo and I can convert/render movies while listning to my music on Media player and checking my Live mail account. OK, so it hasn’t got true virtulization but how much can YOU really do at the same time. I’ve never needed a Virtual machine as my OS’s have always worked properly and they have compatability modes so I don’t need to go back to XP to get legacy software running. I had Vista Ultimate 32bit OEM the day it came out and it installed with no probs and worked like a charm, even on my MSI GeForce NX7600 GT Diamond plus GFX card running a Sony 46″ Bravia EX at 1080p through HDMI. I’m now running Windows 7 RC1 32bit and low-and-behold…………….it works lovely jubely. I take great pleasure in also pointing out that Custom PC’s latest mag had a nice feature called the Mac Killer *Hu hum, cough, splutter* up to 25% faster/better than the Mac for a little less money. ;-D
5. Latest Mac laptops do not come with VGA nor DVI adapter cables. And each gen has had a different mac-side fitting. At least they are now using a standard (mini display port).
6. So show me how to make your airport card only connect via one band (A,B,G). This is easily exposed in Windows networking, seems impossible in OS X. Not often used, but vital for troubleshooting.
Violates the principle that the easy should be obvious and the difficult possible.
This guy is living in a world all his own. Granted Vista sucks but Windows 7 will wipe the OSX. And lets see you run high graphics video games on your windows on a mac box, not going to happen because your Mac only allows you to have up to 3gb of memory and PCs today allow up to 16gb even the highest a mac will go today is 8gb. Dude, you don’t know what your talking about so just step away from the computer. Your all duped up on what your Mac can do because you have never been around a real PC. Yes you could not figure out how to use the task manager in windows so you are stupid enough to need a Mac and not smart enough to be reviewing which is better mac or pc.
my mac has 32gb
I canceled my subscription to PC Mech. I cannot give another dime to anyone that acts that stupid. I have three computers with Vista on them and they work flawlessly. I have no idea why anyone can sit and talk like David does and expect people to believe anything that PC Mech says about any subject after viewing that video.
Ultimately its a choice. I think TRUTH states that a 1,500 custom PC will eat your 2k dollar mac. Macs are indeed easy, and they are nice, but then again, with a little technical knowledge you could spend half as much and have a PC that works better. Your Mac comes with software…so, with the 1k or more I save on my custom built core 2 duo system I can buy whatever software I choose. When my computer is outdated, I just upgrade it. When you’re mac is old..u spend another 2k . Your Mac is a sleek luxury automatic car, while my PC is a raging 6 speed muscle car. If you like fat chics and easy rides get a mac.
Point is, regardless of what you say..
MY $1500 custom computer will eat your $2500 Mac, and look sexier doing it.
Lets do a benchmark
http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-case-for-an-apple-mac-mid-tower/comment-page-1/#comment-17318
I’m getting so tired of mac users complaining about PC’s processing power and then saying that “you get what you pay for” with macs. Yes, the average speed of a PC is less than that of a mac. Yes, a lot of people are dumb enough to get a slow PC. But try getting a PC that actually costs the same as a mac. Then you’ll actually know what a fast computer is. My homebuilt PC cost about $1500 (~$2200 if you got an equivalent one from Dell). And it runs way much faster than any mac I’ve seen. You most definitely can switch seamlessly between OS X and Windows, and even more so than on a Mac; I’ve done it (I’m also running a homebrew copy of OS X on there). Macs are high-end, and should be compared to high-end price-equivalent PCs. Look at the Mac Mini. It sucks. Terribly. It is slow and crappy, just like the low-end PCs.
I wish you would include some important facts with all of your opinion. You’re obviously biased, which is understandable, but at the same time if you don’t want people to just throw your video in the trash, you might want to work on making a more valid argument.
Macs are like the consoles of computers, they are unable to upgrade and therefore become outdated the second they are released. The best PC available on the market will always be better than the best mac on the market because of this. Also all the flaws you have stated about the PC are flaws that would be apparent with Mac as well if they had the same open-ended capabilities. The best test would be to buy a computer of the same price immediately upon release and to see which one runs stress testing programs better. I have already done some similar testing where I used a less expensive PC and actually saw it outpace the Mac in many categories.
It seems like your biggest complaint is that because a PC can do more and run a lot of programs that you Mac can’t, that you get the problems that come with it, like viruses, and errors. That if you adjust your settings wrong then your computer will crash? A price I’d gladly pay to be able to adjust them.
I do not know what is going on here. But I am an owner of 2 macs, and I love the simplicity of them. They are fast and easy to use. There are so many great features right out of the box (iDvd, iTunes, iMovie). Customer Service is always accessible, and I am talking to someone who speaks English- and it is their first language. Apple’s are easy to use and understand. Windows, keeps getting more and more confusing. Where does all the stuff go??? I agree I am not a techy kind of girl. But why should you need a Microsoft certificate to operate your computer?
But yes apple’s are more money, and I agree that sucks. And if you convert to an apple you may haft to sacrifice some programs to go along with it. I just use the regular stuff on mine- so no-big-deal. And have learned to live without. If you are a big gamer, than don’t get a mac, because it is to hard to figure out how to get windows games to work with a mac. But if you are looking for simplicity and understanding along with the added security features- than a mac is probably for you. If you are a computer wiz, well then get whatever-you-want.
And lastly, why so much bickering…. Really- you guys.
Im running vista sp2 in an HP dv9910us 2 gigahurtz 3 gig ram with no problems. I have run Linux also for years. Windows 7 looks great but I will stick with vista for a while. Its very secure with MS Essentials(which I have been running ever since it came out in beta) Ms firewall, sanboxie virtual software topped off with Threatfire. With these running I still have plenty of cpu left over. Im running 3 monitors including an EVGA USB-HDMI external video card and the drivers work!
I will be honest that I have never owned a mac. Why? If it works( and beautifully!)why fix it.)
Earlwallace
The fact that you lick your laptop shows the inherent difference between Mac users and PC users. PC users use their machines as TOOLS. Mac users use…….or view their machines as sexual devices. Why do 99% of all the mac users I run into try to “convert me”. I, being a technician, never try to convert them. If they are happy with their machine………fine! But don’t try to tell me that I am running an inferior product. I buy premium hardware with plenty of horsepower. My machines do everything I want them to do……..and more. And for a lot less money. I had ZERO issues with Vista, and now that I am running Win 7, it is even that much better. And here is the reason………..I READ THE FREAKING MANUAL. Is Windows perfect…….far from it. But I can work on my machine, and I can fix it. And face the facts. Worldwide mac is only about 5%. THAT is the truth. I live in the real world and I work on real computers……….. But thanks for the GREAT entertainment you mac fanboys provide me. You are Fantastic………….
I just hate Macs sorry, I’m just into PC’s. Right now I have my computer using Windows 7, 32GB ram, Asus supercomputer Motherboard, Intel l7 processor, 4 graphics cards, and 3.5 TB of hard drive, you can’t do that on a mac, actually you couldn’t even open up that thing, unless you want to void the warranty. Ha!
All of those for the same 2K price. Thats something worth paying for.
You sound like a friend of mine: an Appiphile. Its like a religion to Mac users.
Heres something to digest. PC Mechanic was built on, and is in service for PC machines. Arent you compromising the very thing that brought you to the dance Dave. We are your audience and you are dis-ing us. Macs are great, but your whole audience and your site’s major reason for being is to service PC users and techies.
Something to think about – your audience and uh, customers.
-Detrieux
Your part of a cult for licking your mac computer. Who licks there computer, that's not even funny. Mac is a ton of garbage, because your paying more for less. Also Computer's don't use Horse Power they use a multitude of parts that ALL contribute to the computer such as.
Graphics Card –> Used for things that require a lot of Graphics processing and memory.
Ram & CPU –> Used in combination with a CPU. Low ram but strong CPU means your computer will work like crap however, a good amount of Ram & a great CPU will mean they can run at there full power.
Mother Board –> A good motherboard is required to have a Good Ram, a Good Graphics Card and a great CPU.
Hard Drive –> Having a large hard drive and a good hard drive will increase the overall speed of your PC even if it has a lot of crap on there, because you have enough room and a fast Hard Drive as well as a great system. Having a lower end CPU or low ram can drastically effect the speed of Hard Drive.
for around 650-750 dollars i was able to get a Core 2 Quad Intel CPU, a 1GB DDR2 Nvidia Graphics Card, 4 GB of Ram, a Motherboard that support Core 2 Quad and can also support 16GB of Ram total.
I also have a 250 GB Hard Drive that is very fast. My system also has a Flat Screen LED Monitor for $50 bucks.
so my system comes around to about $583 + Taxes.
I can play games like DMC 4 & Far Cry on Fullest Setting using Vista 64 bit or XP 32 bit.
I can use 3D Graphics Modeling Programs using Vista 64 bit or XP 32 bit.
I can also have multiple programs running simultaneously such as games, graphics programs , video editing, watching movies etc.
weedper, mac owners are NOT paying more for less.
firstly ignore component specs, consider the overall experience. THAT is what macs are all about.
secondly if you factor into the mac's cost what the included software that macs come with would cost, if bought separately you would realise that macs are good value.
thirdly, if you bear in mind the incredible way mac's hold their value, even old powerPC macs, macs are in fact much, much cheaper than PCs. for instance my pc which cost me 2 thousand quid 2 years ago is now worth probably 2 or 3 hundred pounds. A mac which cost the same 2 years ago is probably now worth 12 hundred pounds!
Macs are way cheaper and better value than PCs.