Mozilla Thunderbird 3 – Where Did You Go Wrong?

I am a diehard Mozilla Thunderbird user. Even though I’ve tried out just about every single email there is (Yahoo! Mail, Gmail and Hotmail included), and just about every single mail client there is, I always go back to Thunderbird. It’s because it does the job that good.

But unfortunately I can’t say that anymore.

Now I have to say I’m a diehard Thunderbird 2 user.

Before I get into why that is, bear in mind when it comes to email, people are fiercely loyal when it comes to their mail clients. Some Windows users positively refuse to give up Outlook Express 6. Many Mac users absolutely will not use anything but Apple’s Mail app. And there are even some diehard Eudora users out there still. All of this stuff (including Apple’s Mail) are programs built upon very old code – but working and good code. Each one of those mail apps are super-fast and work without complaint.

Thunderbird 2 is the exact same way. Light, quick on its feet and stupidly easy to use. It’s mail the way it was meant to be. It works flawlessly in Windows, Mac or Linux.

Thunderbird 3 on the other hand is a totally different story.

The good stuff

The global search is by far 3′s best feature. No question. To find mail anywhere in any folder, just start typing in the search field. Search by anything. This search is amazing.

Originally I wasn’t too hot on the idea of tabs in my email, but the way they’re implemented in 3 works quite well. It is better to have an email open up in a tab rather than a new window. The awesome global search I mentioned a moment ago makes extensive use of these tabs and does so well.

T-bird 3 also takes advantage of Windows 7′s search. What this means is that you can locate emails without even having to open Thunderbird. Just click the start logo and type. And yes, you can turn it off (which I did because I like to keep mail searches solely within the client).

The new icon sets do look better than 2′s did – particularly the icons for attachments and starred mails.

The relocation of certain buttons to be within the reading pane window are very convenient. I did like that the reply button was in a place that, for lack of a better term, felt better.

The bad stuff

T-bird 3 tries in its best effort to automatically set up an email account by guessing what servers you would use. Unless you’re using a very popular email service this is a complete waste of time, because it takes longer for that process to complete compared to manually entering in the POP/IMAP/SMTP server information yourself.

The "smart folders" 3 uses make no sense whatsoever. I quickly dumped that for the older standard tree-style listings instead, easily done by clicking an arrow at the top of the list.

You would assume the new "Archive" feature would follow the date of emails for proper date-based archival. It doesn’t. If you "archive" a mail from 2008, guess where it lands? In the 2009 folder. This makes the feature worthless. I can do the same thing with a drag-and-drop in T-bird 2.

But even with this bad stuff, I was still set on using this client. But then there were two things that were total deal-breakers.

Unfinished product

There were several instances I found where things just simply didn’t work.

One that really stuck out was the F8 shortcut. This is a toggle function in T-bird to turn off/on the reading pane. I use it quite a bit. It would not work unless I specifically clicked the View menu first, then clicked again, then it would work. Very annoying.

If you add in columns with information that justifies itself to the right side (like "Size") and place that on the right side, there isn’t any padding. The text slams to the right border and makes some text unreadable no matter how you position it.

Unstable

On an attempt to double-click a tiny-sized email to open it in a tab, T-bird crashed. I’m not kidding. Crashed. Never have I had T-bird do this to be before with an official release. It crashed so hard I had to force-quit it Windows style via the Task Manager.

T-bird 3 for no apparent reason jumped to over 100,000 K of memory usage – even when it was not indexing and just sitting there. Most email apps will use 20,000 to 30,000 K (which T-bird 2 did) even when loaded with add-ons and never exceed that resource. There was literally no reason 3 had to be this chunky on resource whatsoever.

On attempt to mass-select emails where you click a mail, hold SHIFT and press the PageDown key – even with the reading pane off, T-bird 3 stuttered and was flaky on execution. It wasn’t even rendering any emails for view other than the list. What was it "thinking" about? That question goes unanswered.

Was it a "Windows thing"?

I was getting so desperate to figure out what was going wrong with T-bird 3 that I entertained the idea that maybe somehow it was Windows 7 messing it up, because there was no possible way Mozilla would release something this bad.

T-bird 2 never, repeat, never had a problem in Win 7. Or XP for that matter.

No matter what I did, T-bird 3 was just a sluggish beast of an app that couldn’t even handle a simple POP account properly. The unfinished interface, the stuttering, pausing, memory munching.. it was all horrible. No amount of shutting down other apps, rebooting or otherwise fixed it.

After I reinstalled T-bird 2, I crossed my fingers actually hoping it would screw up so I could blame it on Windows 7.

Alas, T-bird 2 worked flawlessly like it always did. It wasn’t a Windows thing. It was a T-bird thing.

I can only pray that other T-bird 3 users didn’t have as bad of an experience as I did.

Speaking of which, if you currently use Thunderbird 3 no matter what your OS (Win/Mac/Linux), please feel free to post a comment on your experience with the software. Hopefully it was a good one, because in all honesty I truly want to be wrong about 3 here.

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  • Ferby

    I agree that Thunderbird 3 sucks, but I have to disagree with everything you seem to like. I don’t like the search indexing, I don’t like the message buttons being in the header area, and I don’t like the tabs. Lame, all around.

  • Cat

    It screwed with my system beyond belief. It gives me constant error messages, tells me my inbox is too full – and I used to keep ALL my mail because of the business I’m in. I’m trying t figure a way to get all my stuff off the program to find something else to use. It’s pretty much closed my business down for a week now.

  • peter

    I also agree, found a copy of source rpm of 2 version 23 and hanging on to it. wont use 3 until they fix that dam stupid wizard and put it back to the way 2 did it.
    in fact prob still wiont use it, they need to go back to the last version of 2 and fix it.
    then release an update.
    thunderbird will die if they dont

  • john

    Can you help me? I liked T3 except it was way to slow and I use it for work. I can’t afford to wait on it. I am using the portable edition. I went back to T2 but now I cant go back to lightning 0.9.
    It says “The calendar data in your profile was updated by a newer version of Lightning and continuing will probably cause the information to be lost or corrupted. Lightning will now be disabled and TB restarted”
    How do I fix it/ I don’t care if I have to enter all of my calendar appointments again. I just want T2 & lightning 0.9.

  • Dave

    Thunderbird 3 was the first Mozilla product in many years that I’ve had to uninstall because it just didn’t work. Also, it actually LACKS features that Thunderbird 2 had. What the heck were they thinking?

  • Hatetb3

    I wont rehash what everyone is saying. I agree. I am having similar problems. TB3 Just crashed google chrome. I don't know how, but both apps hung until I killed off TB, and the chrome came back. Right now, I'm sitting around waiting for TB3 to finish doing whatever its doing (it wont tell me in activity manager) so messages will load. Eff this noise, I'm going back to 2. Or zimbra.

  • Buddyboy

    T3 uses too much memory, is slower, and it keeps changing my font in the middle of a sentence when composing an email. T3 has some nice features, but these flaws are killers.

  • Daniel Anderson

    Hm I'm running Thunderbird 3.1 now. Not a single bug or problem.. It is five times(!) faster when handle my e-mail and I can make use of the Swedish spelling check. Too bad others don't have the same positive experience as me. I agree though that the smart folders feature are terrible, but it's just a couple of mouse clicks to get the old the All Folders back.

  • Mike Boorman

    I can confirm with Daniel Anderson that TB3.1 is pretty amazing. I'm running Mac OS X 10.6.4 and the startup time was between 2-3 seconds. The organization I'm with using Google Apps for email using our own domain. The auto-setup has no problem identifying the settings, total process taking less than 5 seconds. I have just started using it and will try and post an update in a week or so.

  • Honda_cb750

    I tried 3 for a couple days, and hated it.I went back to 2. One of my biggest complaints was that, after opening and reading a message, I kept clicking on the red X in the top right corner to close the messaage and go back to the list of messages, but of course in 3, that red x closed the whole program! This happened over and over! And I didn't like the icons where they put them, I liked them fine all lined up on the task bar. I hope they keep updating 2, and I'm not forced to 3, because if that happens, I'll probably go to Windows Outlook express!

  • Jesse

    Love T-Bird 2. Hate T-Bird 3. Same reasons. If it's not broken, don't fix it!

    • guest

      I agree. I've used TB 2 for years. TB 3 is, to but it bluntly, crap. At least for me. The loss of vertical space (in the headers area) was a deal breaker. I thought I could get around it with an extension. But the extension installation failed. Now TB3 hangs at startup. I HOPE I can get back to TB2.

  • Alberto Vermicelli

    Yes, I totally agree. My very fast computer became terribly slow with TB3. It just “hung” for a second every 10-20 seconds. I thought it was Windows messing up but after upgrading (yes, upgrading) to TB2, everything was fixed.

    I think they tried to be more commercial with TB3, make it look good and it will convince people to try it. But if you want to keep them, the product needs to work good as well.

  • Judithrc

    Thunderbird 3 is absoilutely dreadful. Give is back 2.

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