Comments on: The Stupidity of Microsoft’s Mojave Experiment http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/ Helping Normal People Get Their Geek On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:17:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Tax http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-18580 Tax Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:48 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-18580 We run Vista Business as small end servers & desktops. It works well, except for drivers on some HP's. I would contribute this to HP's lethargic reaction rather than Microsoft. BTW - we have a Vista server unning for the last 6 months with a 1GB accounting SQL database on it. No problems at all. Dell I would never buy - their parts are hideously expensive & take forever to arrive. Maybe that's your problem... We run Vista Business as small end servers & desktops. It works well, except for drivers on some HP’s. I would contribute this to HP’s lethargic reaction rather than Microsoft.

BTW – we have a Vista server unning for the last 6 months with a 1GB accounting SQL database on it. No problems at all.

Dell I would never buy – their parts are hideously expensive & take forever to arrive. Maybe that’s your problem…

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]]> By: Gifin http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13194 Gifin Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:47:17 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13194 Let me tell you a story. Vista sucks. It sucks so bad that I have heard about it and I am not plugged in any where. Only someone living in a cave in Pakistan is less connected than I am. I got a sale PC with Vista and discovered that "Yup, it sucks." I am in the process of giving it away to some one if I can't wedge XP onto it. The quasi-browser interface on Vista is a real pain in the butt and there is even less to recommend Vista Basic than Windows 2000. Win 2K is faster, and runs on less than the mini-mainframe required by Vista. What's more I bought a Dell PC with XP on it (one of the last ones) and the tech at the factory forgot to bolt down and plug in the fans (I discovered it during the first endless Dell phone tech session). Then the Dell tech told me to turn on the PC anyway trying to connect to the Internet until it died and created that magic crispy odor. They left me hanging, so I figured I was screwed. Well, Dell called me up several days later said they would send me a new computer, they did, the wrong one. It was a tower with Vista on it. They refuse to send me a computer in the form factor I ordered with XP and tell me take the tower with Vista on it and like it, period. I can't seem to get to some one who is actually a customer service person who can make the situation right. I know they can, but it probably violates some stupid policy and I can't get to someone who can make an independent decision, so I am going to hold both computer's hostage in an attempt to get "heard" by some one at Dell. Each time I call all I get is a sales job about how much better Vista is and the computer I have is sooo much better. Both the OEMs and Microsoft are banking on their mass to drive Vista down customer's throats. Not going to work with me. I have bought a Mac and started learning how to operate a Linux machine and Dell, Intel and Microsoft can take a flying leap. Let me tell you a story. Vista sucks. It sucks so bad that I have heard about it and I am not plugged in any where. Only someone living in a cave in Pakistan is less connected than I am. I got a sale PC with Vista and discovered that “Yup, it sucks.” I am in the process of giving it away to some one if I can’t wedge XP onto it. The quasi-browser interface on Vista is a real pain in the butt and there is even less to recommend Vista Basic than Windows 2000. Win 2K is faster, and runs on less than the mini-mainframe required by Vista.

What’s more I bought a Dell PC with XP on it (one of the last ones) and the tech at the factory forgot to bolt down and plug in the fans (I discovered it during the first endless Dell phone tech session). Then the Dell tech told me to turn on the PC anyway trying to connect to the Internet until it died and created that magic crispy odor. They left me hanging, so I figured I was screwed.

Well, Dell called me up several days later said they would send me a new computer, they did, the wrong one. It was a tower with Vista on it. They refuse to send me a computer in the form factor I ordered with XP and tell me take the tower with Vista on it and like it, period.

I can’t seem to get to some one who is actually a customer service person who can make the situation right. I know they can, but it probably violates some stupid policy and I can’t get to someone who can make an independent decision, so I am going to hold both computer’s hostage in an attempt to get “heard” by some one at Dell.

Each time I call all I get is a sales job about how much better Vista is and the computer I have is sooo much better. Both the OEMs and Microsoft are banking on their mass to drive Vista down customer’s throats.

Not going to work with me. I have bought a Mac and started learning how to operate a Linux machine and Dell, Intel and Microsoft can take a flying leap.

]]> By: MMS Dave http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13188 MMS Dave Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:23:04 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13188 Dear Ben Matthews, My name is David Link, I had a nice little remote quite place in Washington state. Quiet ,until Billy boy bought up a 600 acre timber parcel and built a compound on it and started buzzing the neighborhood in helicopters and planes. I could have handled it the old fashioned way. But instead I packed up and moved to Colorado.That wasn't the only reason I left, but a significant factor. My nephew Aced all the courses that Mega Soft had to offer and decided he didn't like being associated with that crowd. I hear that he is doing genetic engineering now. I hope your hero isn't into terrorist groups like PETA. Anyway, to get directly to the point, bloat is bloat. I still make use of my 386 with 3.1 and I turn it off when I am away from it. I much prefer Puppy 2.14 , and because so much on line stuff is MS oriented, I resurrected XP.(Using Puppy) We, in the U.S. are about to learn that this consumption spree we have been on is coming back to bite us. Me, I don't buy into the," More, Bigger, Faster, Shinier and I'm not a real man unless I have it all", mentality. K.I.S.S. ...Keep It Simple Stupid. ...and keep it open source! MMS Dave (Master of the Mechanical Stuff) Dear Ben Matthews,
My name is David Link,
I had a nice little remote quite place in Washington state. Quiet ,until
Billy boy bought up a 600 acre timber parcel and built a compound on it and
started buzzing the neighborhood in helicopters and planes. I could have
handled it the old fashioned way. But instead I packed up and moved to
Colorado.That wasn’t the only reason I left, but a significant factor.
My nephew Aced all the courses that Mega Soft had to offer and decided he
didn’t like being associated with that crowd. I hear that he is doing
genetic engineering now.
I hope your hero isn’t into terrorist groups like PETA.

Anyway, to get directly to the point, bloat is bloat. I still make use of
my 386 with 3.1 and I turn it off when I am away from it. I much prefer
Puppy 2.14 , and because so much on line stuff is MS oriented, I resurrected
XP.(Using Puppy)
We, in the U.S. are about to learn that this consumption spree we have
been on is coming back to bite us.
Me, I don’t buy into the,” More, Bigger, Faster, Shinier and I’m not a
real man unless I have it all”, mentality.

K.I.S.S. …Keep It Simple Stupid. …and keep it open source!

MMS Dave (Master of the Mechanical Stuff)

]]> By: Ben Matthews http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13160 Ben Matthews Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:44:58 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13160 "Ever heard,”This program has been underwritten by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” on NPR? Still trying to buy respect. Silly naked man on a horse!" Not sure what your point is, but Bill Gates has virtually redefined charitable giving. The man has given more to non profits than anyone else consitantly year after year. I like Vista. I got it after SP1 came out, like I did for XP. If people remember, XP was buggy and crashed a lot too when it came out; this taught me the lesson that SP1 is really when to try a new OS, same for all OS's. SP1 resolved a lot of issues because MS was tired of waiting on hardware providers to write appropriate drivers and just did it themself. Mojave I thought was interesting, and many people do bash Vista without ever even trying it. Some people who have used it and not liked it, expected it to be XP++ right away; thats unreasonable. It will probably be there someday, but XP had matured and hit its third service pack. Vista has to resolve its own set of issues, mature and then take the next step above XP naturally. “Ever heard,”This program has been underwritten by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” on NPR? Still trying to buy respect. Silly naked man on a horse!”

Not sure what your point is, but Bill Gates has virtually redefined charitable giving. The man has given more to non profits than anyone else consitantly year after year.

I like Vista. I got it after SP1 came out, like I did for XP. If people remember, XP was buggy and crashed a lot too when it came out; this taught me the lesson that SP1 is really when to try a new OS, same for all OS’s. SP1 resolved a lot of issues because MS was tired of waiting on hardware providers to write appropriate drivers and just did it themself.

Mojave I thought was interesting, and many people do bash Vista without ever even trying it. Some people who have used it and not liked it, expected it to be XP++ right away; thats unreasonable. It will probably be there someday, but XP had matured and hit its third service pack. Vista has to resolve its own set of issues, mature and then take the next step above XP naturally.

]]> By: Jay http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13145 Jay Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:03:19 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13145 LoL. Sounds like an aprils fools day joke that got out of hand. I'n my point of view, Microsoft should just make a new OS. I'm tired of having to have to stick to windows xp. I'm not into software and hardware conflicts when I'm busy at work. LoL. Sounds like an aprils fools day joke that got out of hand.
I’n my point of view, Microsoft should just make a new OS. I’m tired of having to have to stick to windows xp. I’m not into software and hardware conflicts when I’m busy at work.

]]> By: Freddy http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13123 Freddy Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:35:05 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13123 "But, in my opinion, Microsoft had a truly bad way of showing that point. This is something you’ll never see Apple do. Apple is good at marketing, plus they have an operating system that can stand up to the end user." I suppose you never saw the irony of seeing a PC representation of a nerd in the Apple commercial. Wonderful that Apple sees this as good advertisement. “But, in my opinion, Microsoft had a truly bad way of showing that point. This is something you’ll never see Apple do. Apple is good at marketing, plus they have an operating system that can stand up to the end user.”

I suppose you never saw the irony of seeing a PC representation of a nerd in the Apple commercial. Wonderful that Apple sees this as good advertisement.

]]> By: Freddy http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13121 Freddy Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:33:04 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13121 I don't agree with your assessment. It exposes that the Vista haters have never used it. They only heard about the bad things about Vista. I agree that Vista had a nasty first year, but it is largely fixed. To continue the misconception doesn't benefit anyone especially Microsoft and the PC Industry. Vista's bad time is over. Get used to the new Vista. "It calls their customers idiots." Not really. Their customers ignorance can be fixed and it was. I don’t agree with your assessment. It exposes that the Vista haters have never used it. They only heard about the bad things about Vista.

I agree that Vista had a nasty first year, but it is largely fixed. To continue the misconception doesn’t benefit anyone especially Microsoft and the PC Industry. Vista’s bad time is over. Get used to the new Vista.

“It calls their customers idiots.” Not really. Their customers ignorance can be fixed and it was.

]]> By: MMS Dave http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-13116 MMS Dave Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:57:25 +0000 http://www.pcmech.com/article/the-stupidity-of-microsofts-mojave-experiment/#comment-13116 Ever heard,"This program has been underwritten by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation" on NPR? Still trying to buy respect. Silly naked man on a horse! Ever heard,”This program has been underwritten by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” on NPR? Still trying to buy respect. Silly naked man on a horse!

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