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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu 8.10 Slowness Dictates Needed Direction Of Newer OS Releases</title>
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		<title>By: Tundro Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/ubuntu-810-slowness-dictates-needed-direction-of-newer-os-releases/comment-page-1/#comment-23421</link>
		<dc:creator>Tundro Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Ubuntu goes out in 6-month releases, they use some releases to focus on adding new stuff, and others to focus on optimization.  Ibex was about getting more things going, Jackelope 9.04 will be about optimizing it all.  Theoretically, anyways.  Supposedly jackelope is all about faster boot times, better integration, etc.  Ubuntu is a bit unique in that it&#039;s trying to be the &quot;Apple/Mac&quot; of the Linux distro world.  Shuttleworth&#039;s own words say &quot;style is substance&quot;, so they focus a bit on being flashy, integrating cutting-edge things, etc.  This sometimes causes a buggy release, sometimes causes it to run slower than other releases, etc.  Like MS Windows, it comes pre-loaded with all kinds of stuff folks may not want, but they cover the inner 50% of the bell-curve so the &quot;average user&quot; can do what they want to do on it, from graphics work, to surfing the net, etc, without having to figure out how to install crap or uninstall bloat.  Ubuntu is really trying to fill that niche of &quot;making Linux accessible to the common noob / techno-phobe&quot;, and I think they&#039;re doing a decent job of it.  So, while Ibex may seem slow, just give it time.  Ubuntu is only getting better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Ubuntu goes out in 6-month releases, they use some releases to focus on adding new stuff, and others to focus on optimization.  Ibex was about getting more things going, Jackelope 9.04 will be about optimizing it all.  Theoretically, anyways.  Supposedly jackelope is all about faster boot times, better integration, etc.  Ubuntu is a bit unique in that it&#8217;s trying to be the &#8220;Apple/Mac&#8221; of the Linux distro world.  Shuttleworth&#8217;s own words say &#8220;style is substance&#8221;, so they focus a bit on being flashy, integrating cutting-edge things, etc.  This sometimes causes a buggy release, sometimes causes it to run slower than other releases, etc.  Like MS Windows, it comes pre-loaded with all kinds of stuff folks may not want, but they cover the inner 50% of the bell-curve so the &#8220;average user&#8221; can do what they want to do on it, from graphics work, to surfing the net, etc, without having to figure out how to install crap or uninstall bloat.  Ubuntu is really trying to fill that niche of &#8220;making Linux accessible to the common noob / techno-phobe&#8221;, and I think they&#8217;re doing a decent job of it.  So, while Ibex may seem slow, just give it time.  Ubuntu is only getting better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Menga</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/ubuntu-810-slowness-dictates-needed-direction-of-newer-os-releases/comment-page-1/#comment-17327</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Menga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your cheerful Thanksgiving Day comment. You&#039;re such a sweetie.

Yeah, actually I do know what I&#039;m talking about. You obviously didn&#039;t read the benchmark testing at all (all the proof you need to know is there in grotesque detail), nor have you examined any of the other articles here on PCMech where 8.10 was used, nor have you seen the hours upon hours of video footage - and a full DVD release - of screencasted Ubuntu Linux either.

And oh yeah, that&#039;s right - you have nothing to prove your &quot;debunk&quot; statement with. No links, no docs, no proof. You can&#039;t confirm anything. You lose.

And so you know, I&#039;ve been using Linux since Red Hat&#039;s Apollo release.

Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your cheerful Thanksgiving Day comment. You&#8217;re such a sweetie.</p>
<p>Yeah, actually I do know what I&#8217;m talking about. You obviously didn&#8217;t read the benchmark testing at all (all the proof you need to know is there in grotesque detail), nor have you examined any of the other articles here on PCMech where 8.10 was used, nor have you seen the hours upon hours of video footage &#8211; and a full DVD release &#8211; of screencasted Ubuntu Linux either.</p>
<p>And oh yeah, that&#8217;s right &#8211; you have nothing to prove your &#8220;debunk&#8221; statement with. No links, no docs, no proof. You can&#8217;t confirm anything. You lose.</p>
<p>And so you know, I&#8217;ve been using Linux since Red Hat&#8217;s Apollo release.</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/ubuntu-810-slowness-dictates-needed-direction-of-newer-os-releases/comment-page-1/#comment-17312</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you any clue whatsoever what you are speaking about? I have used ubuntu since 2006 and can completely debunk what you are saying here about it being slow. Where&#039;s your proof? seems your just repeating something someone else said - bet you havent even used it. I can confirm that 8.10 is so far, the fastest ubuntu version ive used in terms of boot times and general speediness. 

get your facts right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you any clue whatsoever what you are speaking about? I have used ubuntu since 2006 and can completely debunk what you are saying here about it being slow. Where&#8217;s your proof? seems your just repeating something someone else said &#8211; bet you havent even used it. I can confirm that 8.10 is so far, the fastest ubuntu version ive used in terms of boot times and general speediness. </p>
<p>get your facts right!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/ubuntu-810-slowness-dictates-needed-direction-of-newer-os-releases/comment-page-1/#comment-16224</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the use of the new &quot;fair&quot; kernel processes along side of the new time/chron elements are not properly optimized.

There will have to be some statistical analysis of this combination of this as server/desktop/laptop requirements vary.

I may not be saying this correctly, but if you&#039;ve been following
 the Ubuntu kernel, you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the use of the new &#8220;fair&#8221; kernel processes along side of the new time/chron elements are not properly optimized.</p>
<p>There will have to be some statistical analysis of this combination of this as server/desktop/laptop requirements vary.</p>
<p>I may not be saying this correctly, but if you&#8217;ve been following<br />
 the Ubuntu kernel, you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: LinuxCanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/ubuntu-810-slowness-dictates-needed-direction-of-newer-os-releases/comment-page-1/#comment-16183</link>
		<dc:creator>LinuxCanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you actually used 8.10 or are you merely spouting off using someone else&#039;s lame statistics? I have used every version of Ubuntu including 8.10. I have used 8.10 on two computers with very different specs. In both cases 8.10 boots faster and shuts down more quickly than 8.04. It boots in approximately 30 seconds from grub to login and shuts down in under 7 seconds. The applications are snappy and performance does not seem to be lacking.

I run lots of distros. I have 11 partitions on one computer with each partition running a different distro and I have more running on other computers. In addition to this, I run Windows as I have ever since Windows 3.1.

Since when has M$ ever cut the fat? Let&#039;s keep it real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you actually used 8.10 or are you merely spouting off using someone else&#8217;s lame statistics? I have used every version of Ubuntu including 8.10. I have used 8.10 on two computers with very different specs. In both cases 8.10 boots faster and shuts down more quickly than 8.04. It boots in approximately 30 seconds from grub to login and shuts down in under 7 seconds. The applications are snappy and performance does not seem to be lacking.</p>
<p>I run lots of distros. I have 11 partitions on one computer with each partition running a different distro and I have more running on other computers. In addition to this, I run Windows as I have ever since Windows 3.1.</p>
<p>Since when has M$ ever cut the fat? Let&#8217;s keep it real.</p>
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		<title>By: FACORAT Fabrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>FACORAT Fabrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandriva try to optimize their distro for Netbook by making it faster to start.
They also integrate LXDE to have a light weight desktop, and when using the DVD edition, the installer is able to detect a netbook/low-end system, and then adapt the packages to install.
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Reviewers_Guide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandriva try to optimize their distro for Netbook by making it faster to start.<br />
They also integrate LXDE to have a light weight desktop, and when using the DVD edition, the installer is able to detect a netbook/low-end system, and then adapt the packages to install.<br />
<a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Notes</a><br />
<a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour</a><br />
<a href="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Reviewers_Guide" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Reviewers_Guide</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rich Menga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Menga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there, done that. Would be better if Ubuntu itself was speedier itself instead of having to download an alternative *buntu distro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, done that. Would be better if Ubuntu itself was speedier itself instead of having to download an alternative *buntu distro.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest you look at the current Xubuntu 8.04. Yeah the core is still as fat, but the use of xfce in lieu of GNOME is a noticeable difference in response times. The only thing is you give up a considerable amount of builtin goodies. Which for me is not problem -- I customize anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest you look at the current Xubuntu 8.04. Yeah the core is still as fat, but the use of xfce in lieu of GNOME is a noticeable difference in response times. The only thing is you give up a considerable amount of builtin goodies. Which for me is not problem &#8212; I customize anyway.</p>
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