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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why Your Power Supply Choice Is So Important</title> <atom:link href="http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/</link> <description>Helping Normal People Get Their Geek On</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:13:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Shazzalive</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-49866</link> <dc:creator>Shazzalive</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-49866</guid> <description>The easiest way to do that would probably be to read the manufacturer&#039;s data on each individual component and add up all of the stated maximum wattages drawn by each component in question, arriving at a total maximum figure. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Having done so you&#039;d want to provide a significant safety net in the form of a tolerance for miscalculation and possible future expansion: Therefore I would suggest that you multiply that figure you arrived at by 1.7, and buy a power supply of that wattage rating or as near it as possible.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why 1.7? - Because that multiplier figure allows for significant expansion and upgrading of componentry in addition to a large tolerance in the event of gradual failure of your PSU because of age and wearing out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Please forgive the delay in answering; but there are other readers who might have chipped in their comment. I remind readers that this is not my blog, therefore I don&#039;t maintain my contributions to it in the same way as I do with my own blog. - However if I do note a question posed in the comments on an article that I&#039;ve contributed I will endeavor to answer it, at my convenience.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The easiest way to do that would probably be to read the manufacturer&#8217;s data on each individual component and add up all of the stated maximum wattages drawn by each component in question, arriving at a total maximum figure.</p><p>- Having done so you&#8217;d want to provide a significant safety net in the form of a tolerance for miscalculation and possible future expansion: Therefore I would suggest that you multiply that figure you arrived at by 1.7, and buy a power supply of that wattage rating or as near it as possible.</p><p>Why 1.7? &#8211; Because that multiplier figure allows for significant expansion and upgrading of componentry in addition to a large tolerance in the event of gradual failure of your PSU because of age and wearing out.</p><p>(Please forgive the delay in answering; but there are other readers who might have chipped in their comment. I remind readers that this is not my blog, therefore I don&#8217;t maintain my contributions to it in the same way as I do with my own blog. &#8211; However if I do note a question posed in the comments on an article that I&#8217;ve contributed I will endeavor to answer it, at my convenience.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sharron Field</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-38658</link> <dc:creator>Sharron Field</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:54:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-38658</guid> <description>@Jim &lt;i&gt;&quot;What is the best way to measure the exact watt consumption of my pc so that i would have an idea on what PSU im going to get?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;Measuring the &lt;strong&gt;exact&lt;/strong&gt; amount of power consumed will involve connecting a watt meter in series with every component while it&#039;s running at full-power, noting down the reading, and adding up all the readings at the end of the procedure. - Rather time consuming.Estimating a rough figure, on the other hand, is easier. Google for the maximum amount of power used by each individual component, add the figures up, multiply by 1.25, and get yourself a decent quality power supply that is rated at least 100 watts or more above that figure. - That should do the trick.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim <i>&#8220;What is the best way to measure the exact watt consumption of my pc so that i would have an idea on what PSU im going to get?&#8221;</i></p><p>Measuring the <strong>exact</strong> amount of power consumed will involve connecting a watt meter in series with every component while it&#8217;s running at full-power, noting down the reading, and adding up all the readings at the end of the procedure. &#8211; Rather time consuming.</p><p>Estimating a rough figure, on the other hand, is easier. Google for the maximum amount of power used by each individual component, add the figures up, multiply by 1.25, and get yourself a decent quality power supply that is rated at least 100 watts or more above that figure. &#8211; That should do the trick.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jim</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-37975</link> <dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-37975</guid> <description>What is the best way to measure the exact watt consumption of my pc so that i would have an idea on what PSU im going to get?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the best way to measure the exact watt consumption of my pc so that i would have an idea on what PSU im going to get?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sharron Field</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-26815</link> <dc:creator>Sharron Field</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-26815</guid> <description>Can you please provide links and citations to back up what you claim?I find it curious that in every post I make; whether on my blog or on any other, you eventually turn up and try to rubbish everything I say. That behaviour is otherwise known as stalking and obsessive compulsive disorder. (OCD)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please provide links and citations to back up what you claim?</p><p>I find it curious that in every post I make; whether on my blog or on any other, you eventually turn up and try to rubbish everything I say. That behaviour is otherwise known as stalking and obsessive compulsive disorder. (OCD)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Synapse Syndrome</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-26754</link> <dc:creator>Synapse Syndrome</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:37:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-26754</guid> <description>You write an article about PSUs without mentioning Power Factor Correction or Efficiency?  Well, it&#039;s clear you do not know much about this, as what you said above is just not true.If you use a over-rated PSU, you *will* use more electricity.  PSUs are typically most efficient at around 30-40% of their load capacity, which is what they will be idling at most of the time (if you knew what you were doing and bought the right wattage PSU).If you had a high efficiency PSU (85%+ efficiency), but bought one twice as powerful as needed, you could be experiencing a very low efficiency of 70% or so, well off the peak of the efficiency bell curve - a big waste of electricity on a computer that may be on 24/7.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write an article about PSUs without mentioning Power Factor Correction or Efficiency?  Well, it&#8217;s clear you do not know much about this, as what you said above is just not true.</p><p>If you use a over-rated PSU, you *will* use more electricity.  PSUs are typically most efficient at around 30-40% of their load capacity, which is what they will be idling at most of the time (if you knew what you were doing and bought the right wattage PSU).</p><p>If you had a high efficiency PSU (85%+ efficiency), but bought one twice as powerful as needed, you could be experiencing a very low efficiency of 70% or so, well off the peak of the efficiency bell curve &#8211; a big waste of electricity on a computer that may be on 24/7.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bart</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-17090</link> <dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:41:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-17090</guid> <description>Good article, Sharron.  I would, however, have tried to include average power consumption totals for modern hardware to help readers get an idea as to what kind of a power rating they can expect to need for their rigs.I understand if you don&#039;t want to post up something like as too many people take it verbatem and it can potentially come back to bite you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Sharron.  I would, however, have tried to include average power consumption totals for modern hardware to help readers get an idea as to what kind of a power rating they can expect to need for their rigs.</p><p>I understand if you don&#8217;t want to post up something like as too many people take it verbatem and it can potentially come back to bite you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sharron</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-16764</link> <dc:creator>Sharron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-16764</guid> <description>I see no reason why it should. If you have a 1000 watt PSU lying around then you might as well use it; but I wouldn&#039;t advise you to go out and buy one specially. If you do that then I suggest buying as 750 watt supply.1000 watts, however, will be extremely useful if you&#039;re planning to move to quad-SLI graphics or similar in the future. (Assuming you&#039;re not planning to install them initially.)If your system uses 500 watts but you install a 1000 watt PSU then the difference is 500 watts: This is what you&#039;ll have spare.What happens to this spare capacity? If your system draws 500 watts then at that point the PSU, despite being rated at 1000 watts, only actually supplies 500 watts - without a problem.Will installing this PSU mean I draw extra power from the electricity grid and waste it?No. Your PSU is capable of doing so but it won&#039;t unbless you load it fully by adding a fair bit of extra hardware.Since you have all that spare wattage available I suggest that you use it to power SLI graphics, RAID disks, extra fans, lights, gadgets and gizmos. There&#039;s an article on my blog about some &lt;a href=&quot;http://kkomp.com/index.php?s=freaky+geeky+gadgets&amp;sbutt=Go&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;freaky gadgets&lt;/a&gt; that you might like to consider installing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason why it should. If you have a 1000 watt PSU lying around then you might as well use it; but I wouldn&#8217;t advise you to go out and buy one specially. If you do that then I suggest buying as 750 watt supply.</p><p>1000 watts, however, will be extremely useful if you&#8217;re planning to move to quad-SLI graphics or similar in the future. (Assuming you&#8217;re not planning to install them initially.)</p><p>If your system uses 500 watts but you install a 1000 watt PSU then the difference is 500 watts: This is what you&#8217;ll have spare.</p><p>What happens to this spare capacity? If your system draws 500 watts then at that point the PSU, despite being rated at 1000 watts, only actually supplies 500 watts &#8211; without a problem.</p><p>Will installing this PSU mean I draw extra power from the electricity grid and waste it?</p><p>No. Your PSU is capable of doing so but it won&#8217;t unbless you load it fully by adding a fair bit of extra hardware.</p><p>Since you have all that spare wattage available I suggest that you use it to power SLI graphics, RAID disks, extra fans, lights, gadgets and gizmos. There&#8217;s an article on my blog about some <a
href="http://kkomp.com/index.php?s=freaky+geeky+gadgets&amp;sbutt=Go" rel="nofollow">freaky gadgets</a> that you might like to consider installing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-16760</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:26:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-16760</guid> <description>If im building my own gaming pc and only plan on using about 500 watts of power, will it hurt to install a 1000 watt PSU?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If im building my own gaming pc and only plan on using about 500 watts of power, will it hurt to install a 1000 watt PSU?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sharron</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-16675</link> <dc:creator>Sharron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:10:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-16675</guid> <description>Increased resistance thru thermal buildup should be taken into consideration, true. However in a computer power supply this matter; although relevant, is normally a side-issue.In any power supply worth buying, thermal compensation exists within the circuitry in the form of (a) thermistor(s) which read(s) the overall temperature as well as the circuit-board temperature and adjust(s) the output voltages accordingly, introducing a thermal compensation element into the internal voltage regulators.Due to the large currents that are present within the PSU, this adjustment isn&#039;t usually a particularly significant issue, and usually amounts at most to around a volt at most on the 12-Volt lines, millivolts with regard to the processor supply:Bearing in mind that the resistance of copper track and copper wire increases only a minute fraction of an Ohm with each degree rise in temperature, also that a single Ohm will drop a single Volt at a current of a single Ampere; the unit would have to get very hot before any significant voltage drop ocurred, remembering that even at the 1 point whatever Volt supply to the processor you&#039;d presently at time of writing be looking at a current of at least 20 Amps: An increase in temperature of several tens of degrees centigrade would then not even cause a voltage drop of 0.05 of a volt, and that drop would be thermally compensated for by the thermistor-driven circuitry in any power supply unit worth buying.Any thermal cascade effect resulting from that adjustment would tail-off logarithmically within the next few millivolts above and would therefore be a non-issue.Extra and more accurate thermal voltage compensation with a lower tolerance may be necessary at and immediately adjacent to the processor itself, where the temperature increase is greater as is the variation of such. - That&#039;s a seperate issue, however, and is the responsibility of the motherboard manufacturer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increased resistance thru thermal buildup should be taken into consideration, true. However in a computer power supply this matter; although relevant, is normally a side-issue.</p><p>In any power supply worth buying, thermal compensation exists within the circuitry in the form of (a) thermistor(s) which read(s) the overall temperature as well as the circuit-board temperature and adjust(s) the output voltages accordingly, introducing a thermal compensation element into the internal voltage regulators.</p><p>Due to the large currents that are present within the PSU, this adjustment isn&#8217;t usually a particularly significant issue, and usually amounts at most to around a volt at most on the 12-Volt lines, millivolts with regard to the processor supply:</p><p>Bearing in mind that the resistance of copper track and copper wire increases only a minute fraction of an Ohm with each degree rise in temperature, also that a single Ohm will drop a single Volt at a current of a single Ampere; the unit would have to get very hot before any significant voltage drop ocurred, remembering that even at the 1 point whatever Volt supply to the processor you&#8217;d presently at time of writing be looking at a current of at least 20 Amps: An increase in temperature of several tens of degrees centigrade would then not even cause a voltage drop of 0.05 of a volt, and that drop would be thermally compensated for by the thermistor-driven circuitry in any power supply unit worth buying.</p><p>Any thermal cascade effect resulting from that adjustment would tail-off logarithmically within the next few millivolts above and would therefore be a non-issue.</p><p>Extra and more accurate thermal voltage compensation with a lower tolerance may be necessary at and immediately adjacent to the processor itself, where the temperature increase is greater as is the variation of such. &#8211; That&#8217;s a seperate issue, however, and is the responsibility of the motherboard manufacturer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David M</title><link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/why-your-power-supply-choice-is-so-important/comment-page-1/#comment-16633</link> <dc:creator>David M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:41:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcmech.com/?p=8317#comment-16633</guid> <description>Also, a conductors resistance increases with heat, causing problems for a PSU.The best thing to do is to avoid the garbage PSU&#039;s and to buy a PSU that&#039;s rated well over the maximum power requirement for your computer....like at least 20%-25% more.  The closer you get to your PSU&#039;s maximum output, the more likely you are to get bad voltages, the shorter its lifespan and the more likely it is to fail and damage components.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, a conductors resistance increases with heat, causing problems for a PSU.</p><p>The best thing to do is to avoid the garbage PSU&#8217;s and to buy a PSU that&#8217;s rated well over the maximum power requirement for your computer&#8230;.like at least 20%-25% more.  The closer you get to your PSU&#8217;s maximum output, the more likely you are to get bad voltages, the shorter its lifespan and the more likely it is to fail and damage components.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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