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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-macos-ubuntu-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-6677</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the debut ends here is there no one out there to make more comments or is it that i&#039;m right thats scary.

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the debut ends here is there no one out there to make more comments or is it that i&#8217;m right thats scary.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-macos-ubuntu-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-3534</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V your a control freak that&#039;s a shame considering you can&#039;t control manufacturers. And if you agree then this argument is pointless if you believe that someone should try before they buy then that&#039;s the hole point. Unfortunately it&#039;s manufactures that control what we get and don&#039;t get. The way I see it is that Software vendors should release a ballot so the people can decide how a operating system should be in order to have consumer input. The question is how to get the maker  to listen the consumer interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V your a control freak that&#8217;s a shame considering you can&#8217;t control manufacturers. And if you agree then this argument is pointless if you believe that someone should try before they buy then that&#8217;s the hole point. Unfortunately it&#8217;s manufactures that control what we get and don&#8217;t get. The way I see it is that Software vendors should release a ballot so the people can decide how a operating system should be in order to have consumer input. The question is how to get the maker  to listen the consumer interest?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Kubuntu at work (I am a web developer) and have been for the past 12 months. The transition was pretty smooth and the workflow itself is a lot more seamless using SSH / FTP + Konqueror + Kate than I ever managed to make it using [Insert Text Editor - I tried many] and [Insert HTML Editor - I tried many] on Windows.  The closest to a nice workflow on Windows was by using Eclipse but it ended up being monolithic and sluggish in the end.

Obviously this is a very specific niche, but it helps to illustrate a point that &#039;OMG OS WARZ&#039; are absolutely pointless because merits of an OS come down to the specific needs of the user, and the user&#039;s preference / previous experience (and unfortunately preconceived bias).

I primarily use Ubuntu at home, but I still dual-boot to XP for some panoramic / HDR photography software I use, and games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Kubuntu at work (I am a web developer) and have been for the past 12 months. The transition was pretty smooth and the workflow itself is a lot more seamless using SSH / FTP + Konqueror + Kate than I ever managed to make it using [Insert Text Editor - I tried many] and [Insert HTML Editor - I tried many] on Windows.  The closest to a nice workflow on Windows was by using Eclipse but it ended up being monolithic and sluggish in the end.</p>
<p>Obviously this is a very specific niche, but it helps to illustrate a point that &#8216;OMG OS WARZ&#8217; are absolutely pointless because merits of an OS come down to the specific needs of the user, and the user&#8217;s preference / previous experience (and unfortunately preconceived bias).</p>
<p>I primarily use Ubuntu at home, but I still dual-boot to XP for some panoramic / HDR photography software I use, and games.</p>
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		<title>By: cuiq</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-macos-ubuntu-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-2322</link>
		<dc:creator>cuiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I assure you I am no programmer (just a control freak). I agree, however, that it&#039;s all about choice. Windows, Linux, Mac, BSD, Minix, Syllable, ReactOS, BeOS, etc...use whatever makes you happy.

I will say this. If any person should have anything negative to say about an OS or any software (for that matter), should at least spend a month or two using it thoroughly before commenting on how terrible it is.


Peace V :my friends:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I assure you I am no programmer (just a control freak). I agree, however, that it&#8217;s all about choice. Windows, Linux, Mac, BSD, Minix, Syllable, ReactOS, BeOS, etc&#8230;use whatever makes you happy.</p>
<p>I will say this. If any person should have anything negative to say about an OS or any software (for that matter), should at least spend a month or two using it thoroughly before commenting on how terrible it is.</p>
<p>Peace V :my friends:</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-macos-ubuntu-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-2204</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look if you don&#039;t like it don&#039;t use it. I have been doing some reading lately the issue is not weather linux will take over windows or which one is better then the other. It&#039;s weather these big names in the computer industry are willing enough to listen to the comsumer. Ideas have been flowing and now there is demand for the virtual desktops or the internet OS! which is not really an OS anyway. Most people that do use linux are usually developers of some sort if you want more than what your getting then move to building your OS and save yourself the argument

P.S why can&#039;t we all just get along</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look if you don&#8217;t like it don&#8217;t use it. I have been doing some reading lately the issue is not weather linux will take over windows or which one is better then the other. It&#8217;s weather these big names in the computer industry are willing enough to listen to the comsumer. Ideas have been flowing and now there is demand for the virtual desktops or the internet OS! which is not really an OS anyway. Most people that do use linux are usually developers of some sort if you want more than what your getting then move to building your OS and save yourself the argument</p>
<p>P.S why can&#8217;t we all just get along</p>
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		<title>By: cuiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>cuiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow what a debate. Nevertheless here is my take on the subject.

Ease of use or easy to use is a relative term. 
I don&#039;t care how easy a developer makes a peace software to use if the person sitting in front of it is clueless.
Here&#039;s what I mean. I happen to build, repair, and teach computer use to a number of people.
Linux and Windows are both easy and hard to teach to those new to computers. But once learned a person can take off doing whatever it is they need to do (although I find that people think if you are good at any aspect of computers that you should know how to run/work any peace of software they download or buy. I get calls like this all the time, mainly because people are too lazy to rtfm). Anyway, for those that I have installed linux for are usually people who want updated software but can&#039;t afford new hardware or Windows OS prices. This allows the hardware they have to last a little longer (or a lot longer).

One last thing on hardware. I have some hardware that still does not work with XP because hardware companies did not want to update their drivers, but instead wanted you to buy new hardware. But this same hardware works in linux because of the community of developers who had the same hardware and needed it to work.
But when it comes to hardware it&#039;s not about OS. It&#039;s about the willingness of the hardware companies to make their drivers available.

As for me I still use windows for some games although Cedega is allowing me to install many games on linux and they run quite well.
I like windows and I like mac but I prefer Linux.


Peace V :my friends:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what a debate. Nevertheless here is my take on the subject.</p>
<p>Ease of use or easy to use is a relative term.<br />
I don&#8217;t care how easy a developer makes a peace software to use if the person sitting in front of it is clueless.<br />
Here&#8217;s what I mean. I happen to build, repair, and teach computer use to a number of people.<br />
Linux and Windows are both easy and hard to teach to those new to computers. But once learned a person can take off doing whatever it is they need to do (although I find that people think if you are good at any aspect of computers that you should know how to run/work any peace of software they download or buy. I get calls like this all the time, mainly because people are too lazy to rtfm). Anyway, for those that I have installed linux for are usually people who want updated software but can&#8217;t afford new hardware or Windows OS prices. This allows the hardware they have to last a little longer (or a lot longer).</p>
<p>One last thing on hardware. I have some hardware that still does not work with XP because hardware companies did not want to update their drivers, but instead wanted you to buy new hardware. But this same hardware works in linux because of the community of developers who had the same hardware and needed it to work.<br />
But when it comes to hardware it&#8217;s not about OS. It&#8217;s about the willingness of the hardware companies to make their drivers available.</p>
<p>As for me I still use windows for some games although Cedega is allowing me to install many games on linux and they run quite well.<br />
I like windows and I like mac but I prefer Linux.</p>
<p>Peace V :my friends:</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-macos-ubuntu-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You won. Windows is the best product ever. My complains are minor. Maybe I sould really think to go back to windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You won. Windows is the best product ever. My complains are minor. Maybe I sould really think to go back to windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Unger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did I say that &quot;diffusion means better products&quot;? When did I even hint towards me believing that? Why don&#039;t you use the words that I chose in forming my own conclusion, rather than choosing new ones with new definitions.

Just curious...what in terms of &quot;usability&quot; can be used to form this conclusion that Microsoft Windows (every version, apparently) as &quot;horrible&quot;? I know we shouldn&#039;t care that much...just look at the article title...but you&#039;ve just made a  pretty sweeping statement that I for one didn&#039;t expect. Or is it only about jump drives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did I say that &#8220;diffusion means better products&#8221;? When did I even hint towards me believing that? Why don&#8217;t you use the words that I chose in forming my own conclusion, rather than choosing new ones with new definitions.</p>
<p>Just curious&#8230;what in terms of &#8220;usability&#8221; can be used to form this conclusion that Microsoft Windows (every version, apparently) as &#8220;horrible&#8221;? I know we shouldn&#8217;t care that much&#8230;just look at the article title&#8230;but you&#8217;ve just made a  pretty sweeping statement that I for one didn&#8217;t expect. Or is it only about jump drives?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“There are lots of products that are considered the standard but they are horrible in terms of usability”
&quot;A very bold statement. Do you consider Microsoft Windows an example of described product?&quot;

That was precisely my point, which may very well be different from yours. I just don&#039;t accept the idea that diffusion means better products. Free to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There are lots of products that are considered the standard but they are horrible in terms of usability”<br />
&#8220;A very bold statement. Do you consider Microsoft Windows an example of described product?&#8221;</p>
<p>That was precisely my point, which may very well be different from yours. I just don&#8217;t accept the idea that diffusion means better products. Free to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Unger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disappointed...I never expected any replies to my comment to be nothing but profiling. Now I have to take the time and explain myself.

I used Mozilla until Firefox came out, and Netscape before that when I had dial-up. I still use Office 2003 and have no intention of moving to 2007 or silly OpenOffice.org (you forgot the .org) any time soon. Too bad for you, this article is about operating systems, so stop talking about applications.

You saw me as a nothing-but-Microsoft user, and that is totally not the case. You threw a bunch of programs at me that you expect that I use. You were wrong in doing so.

You also decided that the reason I appeared &quot;pro-Windows&quot; was that I&#039;m comfortable with Windows and only Windows. 

We are talking about Windows. Not Internet Explorer, not Office. This article as about operating systems, and we are in the comments section. When it comes to using an operating system, I say that part of the user-friendliness stems from the fact that millions of users can identify with many of the same functions in Windows over many different versions. The Start menu, the placement of icons, the use of the taskbar, etc. Microsoft kept these the way they were, only changing the visual appearance. I was able to navigate Vista right away after installing it. You can&#039;t argue with that. MacOS is the very same way; it too benefits from the fact that it is also a market standard (albeit one with a smaller actual user base) and hasn&#039;t greatly changed in its interface and such. With Linux, on the other hand, you have scores of distributions with a handful of window managers to choose from and tons and tons of layouts. It&#039;s a mess - you can&#039;t go to some random Linux user&#039;s home and expect to be able to sit down and navigate the computer.

&quot;There are lots of products that are considered the standard but they are horrible in terms of usability&quot;

A very bold statement. Do you consider Microsoft Windows an example of described product?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed&#8230;I never expected any replies to my comment to be nothing but profiling. Now I have to take the time and explain myself.</p>
<p>I used Mozilla until Firefox came out, and Netscape before that when I had dial-up. I still use Office 2003 and have no intention of moving to 2007 or silly OpenOffice.org (you forgot the .org) any time soon. Too bad for you, this article is about operating systems, so stop talking about applications.</p>
<p>You saw me as a nothing-but-Microsoft user, and that is totally not the case. You threw a bunch of programs at me that you expect that I use. You were wrong in doing so.</p>
<p>You also decided that the reason I appeared &#8220;pro-Windows&#8221; was that I&#8217;m comfortable with Windows and only Windows. </p>
<p>We are talking about Windows. Not Internet Explorer, not Office. This article as about operating systems, and we are in the comments section. When it comes to using an operating system, I say that part of the user-friendliness stems from the fact that millions of users can identify with many of the same functions in Windows over many different versions. The Start menu, the placement of icons, the use of the taskbar, etc. Microsoft kept these the way they were, only changing the visual appearance. I was able to navigate Vista right away after installing it. You can&#8217;t argue with that. MacOS is the very same way; it too benefits from the fact that it is also a market standard (albeit one with a smaller actual user base) and hasn&#8217;t greatly changed in its interface and such. With Linux, on the other hand, you have scores of distributions with a handful of window managers to choose from and tons and tons of layouts. It&#8217;s a mess &#8211; you can&#8217;t go to some random Linux user&#8217;s home and expect to be able to sit down and navigate the computer.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are lots of products that are considered the standard but they are horrible in terms of usability&#8221;</p>
<p>A very bold statement. Do you consider Microsoft Windows an example of described product?</p>
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