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Old 03-25-2003, 10:47 AM   #15
corosus
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first of all, do not dislike america in anny way, manny of my closse friends live there, and thoug i might diagree strongly with a friend of mine that still does not mean he is not my friend. furthermore do not wish to insult, or disrespect the people who are fighting for what they believe in.

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Originally posted by whargoul
When it is all said and done, all those Kurds that Saddam has gassed may just rest a little more easy in their graves. You know that the ones still living will be at ease, not fearing death or being run out their homes.

I would like to quote a message I saw somewhere else.

"Personally I think that if the anti-war protesters think we are wrong to take Saddam down, then we should send them all there to live under his regime and see what they think of him then."
first of all, the tuks did the same thng to the curds, are they next on the list of country's to invade ??????

do not think annyone approves of sadam, just that there are better ways than open war to get rid of him. annyway i do not see annnyone in iraq who s happy to see the us marines. I think that for the people who lve there this seems like a occupation rather than a liberation (esp. if an american will be put in charge), i am not saying that it is, but just the faxt that it seems this way to them will result n further conflict.
and that is the only substantial change that this war will bring, further alienating the easteern and western world. in the long run there will be a new dictator. have a look at the list of country's where the us interviend militairy ( not the un ) since 1950 and try to find one where a democratic regime that respected human rights was the result of that intervention

iran 1953
Guatemala, 1953-1990s
Middle East, 1956-58
Indonesia, 1957-58
British Guiana/Guyana, 1953-64
Vietnam, 1950-73
Cambodia, 1955-73
......
Panama, 1989
........
none, not even one

i am not saying that all these country's where good country's to live in before the us intervention, i am just saying that the situation had not improved, so the only result was a lot of people dead.

if you are wondering http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ns_WBlumZ.html

bush's way of talking and his actions remind me of a song dylan made about the cold war "god on our side" http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/withgod.html

i am not saying I have an answer i am only saying that history teatches that it's not war. But i guess man has to hit his head into the same wall agian and again hoping too find a soft spot.

as i sayd i do not have answers but this war, for me it raises the fundamental question, can one impose democrate on a people , even if they do not want it. (kindof reminds me of rightwing regimes in other parts of the world if they where legaly elected, can a people make a democratinc desision to abbolisch democratie????)
i've poderd these questions for manny nights and have yet to find an answer, and i suspect that when i do it will be a personal one.

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