Okay, okay, I get the picture

Lite-On it is. Found a nice retail boxed one at NewEgg for $50 + $6 for slow boat shipping.
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It and a black face plate one seem to be on sale.
At that price I would have to guess DVD-RWs are coming on strong. Oh well, much cheaper to be a round or two behind the tech forefront.
Thanks for the info and recommedations. I appreciate it.
Cheers