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troysvihl · 12-11-2000, 02:38 PM

>are these MP3 players really that useful, Ok i mean the hitherto industry standard of RAM stick/ZIP Disc type mp3 players.<<

Well conceptually, I think they are about a billion times more useful than the MP3 players that have memory sticks, modules, etc. Those memory packs are expensive and they hold a pitiful amount of info. With there CD players, you can just put your whole library on a few disks. You essentially carry around a CD library worth several thousands of dollars.

>>(a) Do the mfg-er provide legal mp3s/sites or is the user relegated to scouring the net for "ez" ending here today, gone tomorrow sites?<<

I'm unsure what you mean. These CD players can only read disks, you can't connect them directly to your computer, so a mfgr provided site wouldn't be all that useful. Besides, "legal" (and I use that term loosely since no sites I know of have been declared illegal) sites suck as they never have any songs I really care about.

>>(c) are they flash"upgradeable" to a recognize a different bit-rate or a better format should it be available? <<

No unfortunetly, but they've only been on the market for a few weeks now, so perhaps the second generation will have them.

>>4. I take it, that you have made at least one CD-R with no Directory and tried it??? If so how did it react? did you have the 6 second probelm then too...<<

Well, one of my disks has a bunch of files not located in a directory, but that disk also contains directories, so perhaps that is causing the fragmentation. The files not listed in the directory are the only files the CD player recognizes.

>>5. Just wondering, have you tried a CDRW to see what it might do.... <<

No I haven't.

>>6. I would love to have one for about a day to write a review on them. <<

Pick one up at Circuit City or Best Buy and when your done, take it back.

>>7. I take in that your CD-R disc with MP3's and no Directories that has the 6 second problem, doesn't have the problem when played in your computer from the disc right? <<

Right. The fragmentation only occurs on the player.

I notice the instructions for that model say it won't play 700 mb CD-R's. I doubt it, but that may be my problem.

BTW, that isn't either of the same models I have, but it's similar.

[Edited by troysvihl on 12-11-2000 at 04:41 PM]

12-11-2000, 02:38 PM	#4
troysvihl Member (11 bit) Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts: 1,606	>are these MP3 players really that useful, Ok i mean the hitherto industry standard of RAM stick/ZIP Disc type mp3 players.<< Well conceptually, I think they are about a billion times more useful than the MP3 players that have memory sticks, modules, etc. Those memory packs are expensive and they hold a pitiful amount of info. With there CD players, you can just put your whole library on a few disks. You essentially carry around a CD library worth several thousands of dollars. >>(a) Do the mfg-er provide legal mp3s/sites or is the user relegated to scouring the net for "ez" ending here today, gone tomorrow sites?<< I'm unsure what you mean. These CD players can only read disks, you can't connect them directly to your computer, so a mfgr provided site wouldn't be all that useful. Besides, "legal" (and I use that term loosely since no sites I know of have been declared illegal) sites suck as they never have any songs I really care about. >>(c) are they flash"upgradeable" to a recognize a different bit-rate or a better format should it be available? << No unfortunetly, but they've only been on the market for a few weeks now, so perhaps the second generation will have them. >>4. I take it, that you have made at least one CD-R with no Directory and tried it??? If so how did it react? did you have the 6 second probelm then too...<< Well, one of my disks has a bunch of files not located in a directory, but that disk also contains directories, so perhaps that is causing the fragmentation. The files not listed in the directory are the only files the CD player recognizes. >>5. Just wondering, have you tried a CDRW to see what it might do.... << No I haven't. >>6. I would love to have one for about a day to write a review on them. << Pick one up at Circuit City or Best Buy and when your done, take it back. >>7. I take in that your CD-R disc with MP3's and no Directories that has the 6 second problem, doesn't have the problem when played in your computer from the disc right? << Right. The fragmentation only occurs on the player. I notice the instructions for that model say it won't play 700 mb CD-R's. I doubt it, but that may be my problem. BTW, that isn't either of the same models I have, but it's similar. [Edited by troysvihl on 12-11-2000 at 04:41 PM]