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mb26 · 12-15-2004, 10:55 PM

"the question is..can you sit down with a group of people and code an entire OS without being buggy? I don't think it will happen. People bash M$, but when it comes down to coding an OS, they wont be able to do it, and even with programming experience, you're bound to have buggy software. Humans do make errors."
they've had over 20 years and the biggest mountain of money on this earth, u'd think they could get pretty damn close to perfection. with that kind of cash, they could send the whole of M$ onto the moon, or feed the whole of africa, an OS is small marbles. u'd think they could get closer than a bunch of unpaid programmers doing it in their spare time giving away their OSes for free..
aslong as ur willing to accept a buggy os, thats what u'll get. personally i think M$ have stagnated and aren't bringing anything new to the table of substance anymore.. they still have the best OS though..

as for the article, it seems to be talking about popups, which both IE and firefox have covered.

i disagree the user is at fault with IE (for everything), if u sell to 'stupid people', then your software should work for them. u should be able to sit a monkey infront of the screen, have it click where it likes, look at all the porn sites it wants, and not f up ur computer. sit an idiot infront of firefox they aren't going to have as many problems IMO.

"they dont have the common sense to be properly secured with IE" maybe they'd prefer firefox itself? sure they could spend time securing up IE every time something new comes up, or get firefox. people dont have time to check everything is secured all the time.

"If you open an infected email, download infected programs or files.. you have no one to blame for the results except the Big Dummy holding the mouse!" providing it has a big "infected programs here" label on it. i agree that those falling for 'phishing' scams usually only have themselves to blame, but there are vulnerable people, like old people who may be a little naiive about the internet and such.. they could easily be fooled by these kind of scams.

also i dont think u can blame 'market share' whole-ly for having more security issues, FF fixes issues far more quickly than M$ when they do occur.

as for browser preferance, personally i prefer firefox, now i have used it its a pain to use IE, with >5 windows open tabs are a must.. i also like all the plugin things.. and that its more secure. people often ask why is firefox better, but i have yet to hear a reason why IE is actually better than firefox? (besides being preinstalled!)

12-15-2004, 10:55 PM	#22
mb26 Member (11 bit) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,124	"the question is..can you sit down with a group of people and code an entire OS without being buggy? I don't think it will happen. People bash M$, but when it comes down to coding an OS, they wont be able to do it, and even with programming experience, you're bound to have buggy software. Humans do make errors." they've had over 20 years and the biggest mountain of money on this earth, u'd think they could get pretty damn close to perfection. with that kind of cash, they could send the whole of M$ onto the moon, or feed the whole of africa, an OS is small marbles. u'd think they could get closer than a bunch of unpaid programmers doing it in their spare time giving away their OSes for free.. aslong as ur willing to accept a buggy os, thats what u'll get. personally i think M$ have stagnated and aren't bringing anything new to the table of substance anymore.. they still have the best OS though.. as for the article, it seems to be talking about popups, which both IE and firefox have covered. i disagree the user is at fault with IE (for everything), if u sell to 'stupid people', then your software should work for them. u should be able to sit a monkey infront of the screen, have it click where it likes, look at all the porn sites it wants, and not f up ur computer. sit an idiot infront of firefox they aren't going to have as many problems IMO. "they dont have the common sense to be properly secured with IE" maybe they'd prefer firefox itself? sure they could spend time securing up IE every time something new comes up, or get firefox. people dont have time to check everything is secured all the time. "If you open an infected email, download infected programs or files.. you have no one to blame for the results except the Big Dummy holding the mouse!" providing it has a big "infected programs here" label on it. i agree that those falling for 'phishing' scams usually only have themselves to blame, but there are vulnerable people, like old people who may be a little naiive about the internet and such.. they could easily be fooled by these kind of scams. also i dont think u can blame 'market share' whole-ly for having more security issues, FF fixes issues far more quickly than M$ when they do occur. as for browser preferance, personally i prefer firefox, now i have used it its a pain to use IE, with >5 windows open tabs are a must.. i also like all the plugin things.. and that its more secure. people often ask why is firefox better, but i have yet to hear a reason why IE is actually better than firefox? (besides being preinstalled!)