[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by Foges but on my athlon 64 3500 newcastle i can change both the multiplyers and the fsb speed. I thougth you could always change both the fsb and multiplyers??? people keep on talking about having the multiplyer on either 10 or 11 and on anandtech when overclocking an athlon they tell you to decrease the multiplyers before you change the fsb to make sure that the multiplyer isnt the problem. or am i just misunderstanding what the multiplyer is

AMD locked its multipliers above a certain setting (probably your default speed), but dropping the multiplier is doable. To my understanding, greater front side bus speed relates to greater overall system operating speed - so raising the front side bus would increase system speed more than just upping the multiplier. By decreasing the multipliers, you can push the front side bus speed more that as it was with regular multipliers. At a certain point, though, you will reach a limit and it's better to have a higher FSB than a higher multiplier number at that point.

My suggestion is don't bother with the multipliers - just raise the FSB. Be cautious of your system temperatures when doing so - having the CPU fry would be a shame.

kram