Spy Chips in Razor packages and shoes???

[Fibre Optix]

Very interesting.

http://www.spychips.com/what-is-rfid.html
http://www.nocards.org/

[mbossman2]

i have seen the same fears about: UPC barcodes, nylon strips in US money, Neilsen ratings boxes, installing chips in people's bodies etc etc etc.

it is just a technology to make people/businesses more efficient in the very labor intensive task of inventorying products in retail and wholesale environments.

Of course, seeing I am not wearing my tinfoil hat, it is quite possible that my mind has been taken over by the CIA/NSA/Illuminati/Bilderbergers/NWO etc and I am just being a shill for them to cloud the issue and blind everyone to their true objective: COMPLETE WORLD DOMINATION.


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[doctorgonzo]

RFID chips are different from UPC codes and other things, though. RFID tags are meant to be read from quite a distance, unlike UPC codes and similar devices. Wouldn't it be nice for a burglar, for example, to case a neighborhood by driving down the street and inventorying the possessions in the houses by scanning the RFID tags?

That's not a very likely scenario right now, but it certainly could be if RFID tags become ubiquitous.

[mbossman2]

Originally posted by doctorgonzo
RFID chips are different from UPC codes and other things, though. RFID tags are meant to be read from quite a distance, unlike UPC codes and similar devices. Wouldn't it be nice for a burglar, for example, to case a neighborhood by driving down the street and inventorying the possessions in the houses by scanning the RFID tags?

That's not a very likely scenario right now, but it certainly could be if RFID tags become ubiquitous.

you have more worries from burglars when you put the box your big screen tv came in out at the curb.

[WhatsThisBoxFor?]

But lets say you buy a Mach3 razor, the tags are not on the razor itself (yet) and so when you throw it out it would just end up in the rubbish tip. I don't know that much about them, but is there battery life really that long, I mean after a few months/ years would they still be readable?

[Fibre Optix]

Appearently they don't have a battery source they're picked up by sensors, I think the sensors have a 6 ft range.

They're are future plans to install sensors in sidewalks.

The potential for this can be a big brother situation. But then again I could care less if someone watches me .... I'd just bore them to death. :D

[doctorgonzo]

Originally posted by WhatsThisBoxFor?
I don't know that much about them, but is there battery life really that long, I mean after a few months/ years would they still be readable?

They don't have batteries. They are energized by the readers themselves. Thus, they have nothing that can wear out or die.


mbossman2, I was just throwing out a possibility. There are certainly a lot of good things that RFID can be used for (the flip side of a burglar taking inventory of your house looking for things to steal is taking inventory of your own house for insurance purposes, making it much easier to file claims). I'm generally in favour of being connected to things technologically, but we are moving into some very new territory where all the consequences haven't been thought of yet.

[WhatsThisBoxFor?]

I believe that they are a good idea, but only as a replacement for barcodes. If they only have a range of a few metres (or is it the readers range that counts?) then i'm fine with it. But if someone 25 metres away can read them then there are some problems. Anyway for you to inventory your house you will read tags in immediate neighbors houses (I live in a semi-detached house) and so then you would have to sort through them.

[mbossman2]

it is more than likely these will be attached to packages (not embedded in the product themselves) so that once the item is in someones home, the tag will be discarded with the packaging.

Doc G, didn't mean to jump on you but all these black helicopter worries are generally unfounded and based upon half truths and in some cases, outright lies. This web site as an example:

"With RFID, each individual can of Coke would have a unique ID number which could be linked to the person buying it "
It happens now and in fact has always happened in shops and stores that keep written detailed receipts, it is just with the advent of computers that doing anything with that information has been difficult. I personally have no issues with targeted advertising, i'll ignore it just like I ignore most other forms of unsolicited ads.

"could be bad for your health...continually bombarded with electromagnetic energy"
Ummm...you are never NOT bombarded by EM radiation. While limits on the power output will have to set (and I can't beleive that the power out put of a passive device can be that high)

[Spartan]

Current technology uses radio waves to excite a coil which produces electricity and transmits a signal read by the reader (thats how they work in my industry). The ranges are limited and the signal in most cases cannot penetrate a wall. Have you ever bought a book and noticed that little square of paper in it? That is one type of RFID. Hold it up to the light and you can see the coil.

-Spartan