Powerbook is dead.

[Mac Medic]

The Powerbook is dead, it's been replace by the Macbook Pro.

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

15.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo processor with 2MB shared L2 Cache
667MHz frontside bus
1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300)
Front Row media center
Remote Control
Built in isight firewire camera
Power adapter with MagSafe Connector, AC wall plug and power cord
100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 pci express with 256MB GDDR3 memory

MacBook Pro also features a full-size backlit keyboard, AirPort Extreme wireless networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, ExpressCard/34 slot, dual-link DVI video out, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 2.0, FireWire 400, and optical digital and analog audio in/out.

Starts at $1999.

[Thurrdome]

I love your signature, Mac Medic! MacBook Pro is unbelievable - BUILT IN iSight!!!! Mac even beat Yonah to this one!
Theoratically, couldn't you install two operating systems and run any Windows application on an XP OS if you choose to install it?

[Mac Medic]

Yes, the intel mac's will dual boot win XP.

[Statica]

Yes, the intel mac's will dual boot win XP.
Are you sure? (I would appreciate supporting links if you've got any handy .. TIA) If so my next laptop is going to be a Macbook .. it's just a beautiful machine! .. right down to even the power cord!!

[Thurrdome]

So are you saying that I could buy XP, install it, and be playing Half-Life 2 a few hours later on a MacBook Pro?

[thefultonhow]

FWIW, stuff like the chipset and GPU are industry-standard components. Things like the wired and wireless ethernet, sound, and modem may or may not be compatible. Things like the iSight probably won't have Windows drivers.

[ZeratulsAvenger]

I hope the power adapter works as well as it could, since that would help solve a major problem for the laptops. It's also exciting to see the change to Intel, since I had thought it might be awhile longer. This means that I can get my laptop this coming summer without worrying as much about initial unforeseen problems.

[Thurrdome]

Good point, thefultonhow. But I doubt that Mac would give the option of dual-booting if some of the drivers weren't compatible.

[thefultonhow]

Good point, thefultonhow. But I doubt that Mac would give the option of dual-booting if some of the drivers weren't compatible.

Well, Apple hasn't mentioned dual-booting at all, so I don't think they're exactly "giving the option."

[Thurrdome]

Actually, appleinsider.com released this information a while ago.

[thefultonhow]

Actually, appleinsider.com released this information a while ago.

Which information? And AppleInsider isn't affiliated with Apple -- it's just a rumor site.

[Thurrdome]

And a news site.

[colecifer]

I won't be interested until there is a 12" version. A laptop has to be small in my opinoin or it defeats the purpose of having one.

[Stuey]

YIPPIEE!! What caught my eye: 5.6 lbs w/ battery and optical drive; only 2 USB 2.0 ports, DVI output.

[Mac Medic]

First I would like to point out that in all of Apple's literature I can't find a single reference to battery life!?!? Must be low!. Here are a few links about windows on the developer boxes, there was a video of XP on Mac somewhere, i'll try to find it. Real confirmation will come when the MacBook Pro ships, it'll be the first thing people try to do.

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0506intelmac.html
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/07/gamedev/index.php

http://www.macnn.com/articles/05/06/09/intel.mac.performance/
"The machines run Microsoft Windows without issue. The Intel Macs use standard Intel chipsets which make running Windows XP possible with just a few driver installations"

[Mac Medic]

Engadget are saying it does run windows

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/10/apple-leaps-ahead-with-dual-core-intel-macbook-pro/

[HAL9000]

Well now I would consider buying a Mac if I can dual boot... I like their displays and overall styling... and if I hate the OS X, I can stick with Windows :p

[doctorgonzo]

Or how about a Mac OS/Windows/Linux triple boot? That would be fun to see done.

[Statica]

The more I delve into the Macbook the less enamored I am. Esthetically pleasing no doubt, but eventually when I consider the proposed new offerings by ASUS w/DUO (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2711) running Vista (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2713).... I think that maybe Apple should stop putting its premium price tag on its hardware.

[Mac Medic]

Yeah, it's a little pricey. I'll wait for the 12" model which should be below $1500.

Have Asus published prices on theirs yet?. I saw a lot of Duo Core notebooks were announced at CES but didn't see any pricing.

http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the+switch,+aligns+with+Intel/2163-1014_3-5733756.html

"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac," he said. "

[Mac Medic]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28900

[Statica]

XP will not run on Macbooks but Vista will (http://engadget.com/2006/01/11/no-xp-on-intel-macs-but-vista-is-good-to-go/)

[Jaggannath]

Interesting discussion... I hovered to see what problem MacMedic had, only to find it was more interesting than that. As with all technology, I'll be kicking back, relaxing, and allowing all the crash test dummies to find out what it can and can't do :D

[David M]

Hah....you got it right Jagg.

[Mac Medic]

Man Jag, you don't want to hear about all the problems I've had with my G5! Too many to mention. It's finally running perfectly, but no thank to Apple!.

I'm assuming that the 12" and 17" powerbooks will eventually be replace by the MacBook so I'm waiting myself, it'll give others a chance to work out the bugs in the systems, and going by Apple's recent track record for POOR quality control I imagine there will be numerous issues. I just hope that when the 12" model is released they don't scimp and actually use the Core Duo instead of a single core model.

[rave]

soo soo sweet...
i love it.

[Statica]

& yet again once DUO based laptops for the Windows platform start coming out, I find myself getting turned off by Apple's premium price tags .. for example: Acer's TravelMate8204WLMi (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1907007,00.asp) is way better spec-ed and the list price from the site anyway seems to be the same as the high end Macbook ... just not as pretty.

[Mac Medic]

The plot thickens

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/13/will-xp-boot-on-intel-macs-after-all/

[David M]

That website is taking forever to load....I gave up.

[doctorgonzo]

That website is taking forever to load....I gave up.

It says that Windows XP *might* work on them after all.

[HAL9000]

Strange.. loads instantly for me

[GaryRouth]

Apple's design team always makes a sharp-looking product. Not too bad on the price, since it likely might fall a bit after it's been out for a while [at the moment, though, a comparable XP(or soon Vista) loaded Toshiba might be had for quite a bit less].

My guess on the dual-boot scenario will be that it can be done [likely any number of multi-boot systems are possible], but that the age-old "Void the Warranty" catch will be the price. Not a big deal for those comfortable enough to multi-boot in the first place.

Should be interesting, too, to see if there are any software issues with the new engines underneath. I wonder if updated recompiled versions will add another cost to folks with G4s moving up - the updates aren't likely to be free.

Should be interesting
. . . Gary

[Mac Medic]

Thats another thing I'm not happy with Apple about. Their pro apps are ready to go on Intel processors, the same versions as the PPC, but Apple are charging a $50 cross grade fee to their customers. I could understand charging a little fee for new disks, or a large fee if the software was a new version release, but to charge people $50 to swap out a disk when you're also asking them to buy a $2000 machine is a little off.

It reminds me of the Tiger release. Tiger only came on DVD, if your Mac only had a CD you had to buy tiger then send off a form with an additional $15 to get the CD's. To me thats just wrong.

[IronMentality]

I can't wait for a 17" MacBook Pro to come out, of course, with battery life statistics! If it gets at least 4 hours like my current Dell 17" Inspiron 9300, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat.

Mac OS > Windoze