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Floppyman
07-09-2001, 01:31 PM
Hey all,

Just installed Linux Mandrake 8.0 and must say I'm quite impressed. Install went super smooth, Mandrake makes it really easy with lots of hints and help along the way. There are also a ton of apps included, whether it be imaging programs, mp3 players or even a cd burning program. Nautilus is also included, and is an EXCELLENT file manager, get it if you haven't.

lil Jimmie
07-09-2001, 01:43 PM
Ditto!
I was really impressed with the install, my only problem is no driver support for my POS sound card. Soon to change that little problem.

Floppyman
07-09-2001, 02:11 PM
Hmmm was gonna upload a pic, but I guess it didn't work quite right....oh well. Mandrake 8 is nice though even setup the bootloader correctly with no hassle.

reboot
07-09-2001, 02:33 PM
I was just here a second ago, and saw your desktop pic.
Hint: Open "Pixie" in Multimedia > Graphics, and resize it to 640x480 and save it as .jpg, then you can upload it, and it will work much better here.

Just for fun, get rid of Netscrap, go and get Mozilla 0.9.2 (it's the same engine as Netscrap 6.1, without all the bloat), and find a theme.
I'm using Sky Pilot theme on Mozilla, and have completely dumped Netscrap.

Nautilus is nice, in a GUI sort of way. I prefer Konqueror for file manager (super user mode), and set the default text file viewer to the Gnome text viewer.

Here's mine: http://members.cnx.net/reboot/temp/linuxscreen.jpg

Do you think I have enough hard drives/partitions? ;) (all mounted at boot too!)

Floppyman
07-09-2001, 03:13 PM
Cool!

Say I gotta question. I downloaded the distributed net client for linux into the /root/tmp/ directory. Unzipped and untarred it using tar -xzf dnetc-linux....tar.gz It did that, but now how do I fire it up? When I use the terminal to go to /tmp directory (where it was untarred and unzipped too) and type in dnetc it doesn't work. I must be doing something wrong, any ideas?

Oh yeah here's the desktop resized:

http://www.frontiernet.net/~kmechler/snapshot2.jpg

reboot
07-09-2001, 04:03 PM
OK, you're going about things the hard way.
You managed to unzip (untar) the file, and they reside in the /root/tmp folder.
You now have to install the package.
In Gnome, there's two ways. The GUI way, and the hard way.
The hard way: Open Terminal (you must be in "root").
Change to the /tmp folder.
type ./configure and (hopefully) it will install.
You'll have to manually create a shortcut to it in the menu, or (once it's installed) choose the "Run" command, browse to the installation folder (usually /usr/share or /usr/bin) and run the program.
The GUI way:
Go to Configuration, Packaging, and open "Package Manager". From there, browse to the /tmp folder, highlight the .tar.gz file, and install. If you get any error, then the package must be done the hard way (above), compiled manually (./configure) and then run.

lil Jimmie
07-09-2001, 10:04 PM
Ok this is my KDE desktop Go easy on me I'm still learning to crawl it will be awhile before I can run with the big boys or girls

reboot
07-09-2001, 10:11 PM
Jimmie, you're doing just fine!
Have you tried out Gnome yet, instead of KDE?
If you haven't installed the Sawfish Theme manager, do it (in root, it's in the basic Mandrake package), and try Gnome.

lil Jimmie
07-09-2001, 10:30 PM
Reboot, Thanks I have tried Gnome on my first install but now on my second install. The first install was on a drive sharing a partition with important backups and I figured it would be better to install MD8 on it own drive. But yeah I'll give it another try. Also will look into the Sawfish Theme Manager.

BTW nice desktops there!

lil Jimmie
07-10-2001, 01:28 PM
Here is my Gnome desktop

Reboot I relly like Gnome Thanks

reboot
07-10-2001, 01:40 PM
I notice you're logged in as "root".
This can be dangerous, because if you change anything that causes the system to crash, you're in for a full reinstall.
You should create at least one account, do all your messing around in there, and if anything screws up, you can just delete the account, create a new one, and go from there.
You've been warned. :D

lil Jimmie
07-10-2001, 01:51 PM
I know I have an account setup to play with and being very careful not to mess
things up.

Statica
07-10-2001, 02:25 PM
Harden your Linux! Goes beyond just using an alternative user, there are a myriad other things you need to do to harden your OS. Walking around with a Windoze PC unprotected is something that you just cant help, with Linux u can.

http://bastille-linux.org/

is a good place to start

mairving
07-10-2001, 04:04 PM
I believe that Mandrake has Bastille on it. It has about everything else.

lil Jimmie
07-10-2001, 04:38 PM
Mairving, you are correct Bastille is on Mandrake.

Floppyman
07-10-2001, 05:37 PM
Cool, can you guys tell me where I can find it in Mandrake? Thanks!

mikeL
07-12-2001, 07:45 AM
I believe you can find it in the Mandrake control center / security / firewall.

Floppyman
07-12-2001, 10:04 AM
Thanks Mike, found it.

Can you guys tell me how good of a firewall it is? Is it just as good or better than Zone Alarm? Just wondering, could I just use Mandrake's personal firewall whenever I get broadband? Would that be enough protection? Thanks again.

mikeL
07-12-2001, 05:43 PM
Sorry Floppyman I'm still very much a Linux newbie maybe Bastille keeps a log somewhere :confused:

OOPS!
07-12-2001, 07:09 PM
Hey Floppyman,

You can lock down a box pretty well with Bastille. Nothing is absolutly perfect though. It gives you many, many, options. It allows you to not only make it extreamly hard to attack from the outside, but also allows you to lock it down from those who have phyisical access too.

To install it took me about 1min. Then it took about 1 hour to setup. The setup is very thorough and very well explained at each screen.


OOPS!

Statica
07-13-2001, 07:45 AM
Zone Alarm, is like a pretty to look, yet functionally lacking toy when compared to using Linux' firewall tools (iproute/ipchains/ipfwd). This is the real thing. Its also best to configure your own firewall, based on the patterns of your usage.

http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html
is a great resource!
However at last check, there was a glaring syntax error in the generation, the script generates a hard line enter (using /) to wrap it to screen. If you want more details just let me know.



Originally posted by Floppyman
Thanks Mike, found it.
Is it just as good or better than Zone Alarm? Just wondering, could I just use Mandrake's personal firewall whenever I get broadband? Would that be enough protection? Thanks again.

Floppyman
07-13-2001, 09:04 AM
Thanks guys,

When I went to the firewall settings in Mandrake Control Center all it asked me where a series of questions to answer yes or no to and then it was setup I didn't see the actual Bastille screen, and all the nice options to configure. I'm sure there's a manual way, could anyone tell me what the command would be to configure Bastille?

Also on the site you mentioned statica, it mentions "IPFW Method". Could you explain these methods to me in more details and what each would be best used for?

Thanks again.

Artaudd
07-17-2001, 11:56 PM
there is a really cool NHF(newbie help file) on www.linuxnewbie.org about something called iptables ..... you should check it out