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Interrupt
07-23-2001, 07:01 PM
Cant get a Winmodem to work with a 90 mhz with Win95

I have gotten winmodems to work on 66mhz and 75 mhz intel based systems. So performance degrade isnt a issue when this is the only modem these people have.
After struggling for 9 hours I am stumped with this problem.

I have tried different pci slots
Installed generic lucent drivers, and the ones that are from www.smartm.com, amongst others.
I have setup a network with shared resources to see if I can detect the modem using the other pc's inf's, and drivers that the modem came in (HP Pavillion)
I have removed all traces of Winmodem junk, disabled com 2 in the bios, also com 1, but reenabled it, there is no PNP features in the BIOS, I have tried Win98 SE also.
In Safe mode I have deleted all com ports and modem, rebooted

It just will not detect the modem, as far as I can get is it will find a Wave Device for the modem, and thats it. The Winmodem virual com port will not install, I have tried to do it manually also.
And the modem works with the HP just fine, works fine on my machine and another one, but not this machine, it just will not detect it.


If anyone has any info on this please let me know. I know this can be done.

glc
07-23-2001, 07:28 PM
Look in the For Sale forum - someone is selling a USR 56k external model 5686 for $25. That modem will make any winmodem look like garbage.

reboot
07-24-2001, 11:22 AM
GLC probably has the best solution.
The real problem you have, is the modem is NOT a real Lucent Winmodem, it's an HP Winmodem, and as such, is proprietary to HP computers.
Stop tearing your hair out, desolder the chips on it, make jewelry, and buy a new modem.

Interrupt
07-24-2001, 06:04 PM
The modem has the Lucent chipset, the modem was made by SMART Modular Technologies not HP.

glc
07-24-2001, 10:47 PM
It was made by SMART *for* HP, to HP specs. They don't WANT the thing to work in anyone else's box.

Interrupt
07-25-2001, 02:17 PM
The modem works on my pc just fine, my brothers, and my uncles, on all 3 of these pc's, the modem automatically detects it's self with no worries, and works, but it will not work on this 90 mhz. My pc is custom built, my brothers is a hp, my uncles is a packard bell. If the modem is proprietary to HP computers, and made to be used with hp's specs, then why does it work on those 3 pc's just fine?

Carl Price
07-26-2001, 03:34 PM
Some winmodems only lack a data pump and work with almost any pentium. Others such as Motorola and Ess and PCtel lack everything. The are a phone interface only and the modem has to be emulated in software. These modems typically require a 166 mmx or higher processor. There are a few in between such as some Creative and Digicom modems.

Why are you still arguing? GLC has given you a <B>very</B> reasonable solution. My recommendation would be to follow up on it.

Aaron2
07-27-2001, 12:07 AM
Too funny. A fellow I work with was just telling me today how he tried to get a WINMODEM that came in a COMPAQ to work in another computer. Same issues : under no circumstances could he get the computer to see the modem. He actually called the 1800 support and they told him that even though it is a PCI modem it will only work in a COMPAQ computer...

they might as well have just went the on board route...
Aaron

Interrupt
07-27-2001, 11:40 AM
I know GLC gave me great advice with my problem, and I appreciate him replying. And I am not arguing. I am just looking for solutions besides buying a new modem. The fact of the matter is, why does a modem from a hp pc work with 3 other pc's and not this 90 mhz pentium? The expansion bus is a risor card with a series of isa/pci. I thought maybe it was disabling the pci slot because of the isa in front of it, but it isnt.

glc
07-28-2001, 11:15 AM
Riser card? Is this P-90 by any chance a Packard Hell? If so - good luck getting ANY internal modem working in it other than a Packard Hell modem/soundcard combo. Its very possible that the modem in question requires PCI 2.1 compliance - and the old beast you have is not compliant.

I personally would not put ANY PCI modem, hardware or otherwise, into something as old as a P-90 - ISA or external serial is the way to go.

Time is money - let's see - 9 hours at, let's say you work cheap, $30 an hour - that's $270. Considering even a brand new top of the line external is $99 you have already shot yourself in the foot. Not trying to give you a hard time, but you have to recognize when it's time to give up and move on to a better solution.

SARGE
07-28-2001, 11:07 PM
I second that emotion. With a P-90, go with an external.

Roadfish
08-09-2001, 01:33 AM
I'm agreeing with glc et al. We used to work on HP, Compaq, and Packard Hell and continuously had issues with them on their proprietary modems and combo cards...driver issues up the ying-yang. Stay clear the hell and gone from that mess and get a new modem.