My Components.

[Viktors]

These parts are going to be in my new build, just thought id share.

Motherboard. http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131011
Status: RMA defective

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820227128
Status: RMA bad stick

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817256006
Status: Delivered, Silverstone Quality = #1 imho.

Hard drives: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148144
Status: Delivered, Quantity 2 for Raid 0

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103633
Status: Delivered, Going to overclock. Oem wasnt available at the time :(

Cd/Dvd rom burner : http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827151118
Status: Delivered, Havent used it yet in my old machine.

CPU Cooler : http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835185125
Status: Delivered. Havent used it yet.

Thermal Paste : http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835100007
Status: Delivered, Best Rated.

Now i havent got a New LCD yet or my GPU's. So here are my options and id apprecite advice.

LCD: Im looking for a 24' inch screen

Acer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009089
This one has gotten good reviews.

Dell: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&oc=2407FPW

Other than these two ive not found many more in that price range thats gotten good reviews, So i started looking at 20 inch widescreens and this one caught my eye

NEC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002320
This one has got great reviews on many sites, not just newegg. But what i really want is a massive 24 inch widescreen.

Ok, Now on to the Video cards.

Originally i wanted this one from Evga, I like evga due to there step up program and customer service.

Evga :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130023

Then i read some reviews in Maximum PC which i trust, so out with the 7950gx2 and in with 2 of these

Evga: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130037 These are the new models that have all the horrible problems fixed. That was also something that originally turned me off to the 7900gtx.

Now the new series of cards are due out soon, by the time ive saved enough to purchase the cards the new ones will probably be out. Ill end up buying the new series if that happens.

Let me know what you think of my build.

P.s. Ive left out the case, I have a Antec Super Lan boy atm which im not all to pleased with. I impulse purchased that one a while back. Ive looking at Lian Li.

Btw this is a gaming computer, fyi

[minsonngo]

I would go with the Acer LCD. I have had good experiences with Acer and Viewsonic. Dell is fine too though.

[blue60007]

I'd go with the Dell, I've heard good things about them. Can't really comment on the Acer, but I'm sure any of those choices are fine. Anyone know what the response time is like on the Dell?

[Viktors]

"Qoute"

Two things I noticed, Image Brightness is 500 for the FPW and 450 for the WFP.

Also, the FPW is HDCP compliant. What does this mean?

Finally, the FPW boasts 12ms response time with 6 second gray-gray, while the WFP says 16ms with 6ms gray to gray.

HDCP Compliant will let you watch protected HD movies with Vista. The older modle 2405 is not HDCP compliant.

The new revision of this monitor is supposed to have its banding issues fixed. Although some of the features are said to still not work right.

I like the dell personally, Even though i am shelling out loads of money for my build money isnt something i can just throw away so i need to make sure what im buying will work right.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Any reason for spending so much on other parts but cheaping out on the cpu? A non dual core cpu will be seeeverly bottlenecking those cards. I mean SEVERLY bottlenecked. The reason why quad sli is so slow compared to those cards is the bottlenecking. No cpu right can handle the power. I hope you know that. Youll need a medium-high overclocked amd dual core to keep up with both of those 7900gtx's. Another thing which I would like to point out is direct x 10 cards are coming out in 2 months. If you had that much money to spend on gfx, you couldve bought a single gx2 and spent it on a dx10 card in the future. Those two cards are gonna be considered ancient VERY fast.

[Viktors]

Actually no ive not heard anything about that cpu bottlenecking performance when overclocked. Granted its not a Dual Core. These parts have been purchased over a 3 month period, In hind sight i should have purchased the cpu last when prices came down. If i would have done that i could have got a dual core for cheap. Live and Learn.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Keep in mind, the *level* that you will need to overclock to keep up with those will take liquid and or Phase Change cooling. It aint that easy to overclock to those high levels. And with a single core it will be very hard to achieve. For example I can overclock my p4 from 3ghz to 3.2ghz and that would get me a drop of performance increase.

Good luck though. Still looks like one heck of a build.

[Viktors]

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/OCZ_PC2-7200/index3.shtml

Heres a link to a review with the same mobo/cpu/ram that i got, he was able to get 2.6 almost 2.7 on stock cooling.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Exactly what I mean, you will still be bottlenecking those cards even on 2.6 to 2.7. To overclock to a point that you wont will take verry extreme measures. Dont always go on reviews in hope for the exact same results. Remember, every cpu is different, not saying you wont get the same results, but dont think that itll be required results :).

[Viktors]

So your saying if i got a really high end dual core it will run at stock or overclock to a point it wont bottleneck?

This is all new to me, I appologize.

I dont mean to argue a point to a more experienced person its just ive never seen a review on a higher end amd cpu overclocking past 3 gigs without some sort of water cooling or the phase change deals. Im not saying there isnt out there, Personally i dont know. Im confused.

*edit* I just realized i stated 3 gigs. To be honest i dont know what it would take to not bottleneck those cards. It is my understanding that 2.7 is amd FX speeds, I figured that would be plenty. Ive seen computer companies that offer machines with amd FX and dual 7900gtx cards. I dont know if there FX's are clocked higher so they wont bottle neck there systems or not.

In hind sight i should have asked here first.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Im sorry if im being rude or confusing.

I was just saying. 2.6 or 2.7 is a very big accomplishment, just dont expect it with every single chip. Usually to get above 3gigs you do need watercooling or phase. To a point you wont bottleneck. For you though, Im thinking at 2.6 your bottleneck with the cards should be very low.

Please please please dont go out and buy a new cpu. Its fine for yoursetup and needs right now. I was just trying to convay the point that overclocking to extremes isnt easy.
Right now gpus are evolving faster then cpu's. With all past cpu's you would get some sort of bottleneck. The only ones that dont bottleneck at stock a very fast crossfire or sli setup are the higher end conroes.
Im not saying that you *shouldnt* overclock, I was just trying to say dont rely on overclocking to answer your performance needs is all.

And do not get me wrong, everything on your build is something that I would dream about getting. That is one heccccck of a computer. Have fun with it. And great choice on the psu, alot of people skip that when powering such a highend setup like yours.

[Viktors]

Man, Thanks for the compliments and advice Mr. Farrari! much appreciated.

To be honest i was/am relying on overclocking to complete my machine. When i started putting it together i said to myself that i wouldnt spend alot on a new rig.

So i bought a few things. Cpu first and i spent the most on the nice Mobo because i liked its features. However i got a promotion at work **Pay INcrease** and decided to treat myself to a better machine.

Kinda complicated but thats how it went.

[Viktors]

Oh and i dont have to get two cards i suppose. I wanted great performance when running such high resolutions that 24 inch screens need. If there is one thing i cant stand is slug like performance.. Choppy = No fun for me.

[blue60007]

Overclocking isn't a way to save money...once you factor in the premium everything required to do it well and safely, it doesn't save you any money. Besides, the CPU doesn't really make a huge difference in games - the video card does - and it looks like you've got a hefty one.

[Viktors]

'Overclocking isn't a way to save money'

I guess there is two sides to every fence.. even in the computer universe. On other forums the 3500+ amd AM2 proc. was recommended due to the fact it could O/C to FX speeds.

Im learning alot tonight, Never just visit one site and listen to them like its gospel.

Well anyway im stuck with this CPU untill i decide to upgrade it later, So ill do the best i can to get everything i can out of it.

[Viktors]

Does anyone here have either of these 2 monitors?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009089

or 20 inch NEC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002320

[Mr.Ferrari]

Links arent working dude =/.

Ocing is a great way to get more bang for your buck. Overclocking is a great way to spend little and get more. Just not a way to spend little and expect more. If you know what I mean.

Overclocking, if done right, can yield awesome benefits, also teaches you a few more things about computers.

[Viktors]

err my bad on the links.

NEC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824002320

and the acer 24 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009089

[Mr.Ferrari]

Im not exactly a expert on monitors, but bigger is always better. :D

Ive really heard some good things about those dell monitors too. That 24'' looks like a beaut.

[glc]

One should never build with the idea of immediately having to overclock to get the desired performance, unless you are willing to risk losing warranty coverage on your components. Overclocking is a HOBBY, just like racing your car.

Mr. Ferrari has been giving excellent advice here - but sometimes he is going a bit overboard recommending things that the person he is addressing has no business doing - yet. This is not a hardcore overclockers forum, we address all levels of users here. Before even contemplating overclocking, there is a lot of research and preparation required - unless you have deep pockets and don't mind replacing fried components. An overclocked machine requires a lot more attention and maintenance than a stock box - just like modified cars!

[minsonngo]

Thats why I keep all of my systems stock. :D

[Mr.Ferrari]

Haha sorry about that glc, Ill try to keep the overclocking stuff a on the low, just get carried away sometimes. :)

[glc]

No problem - all I'm asking is you try to judge the technical level of people a bit better, that's all. Overclocking is not something a first builder should even be thinking about unless they are already experienced with repairs and upgrades. Don't get me wrong, we do respect your expertise here.

I recommend that anyone wanting to get into the overclocking scene should play with an old beater machine FIRST - not on your first expensive new build.

As an example, my Linux box is running an AMD K6-2 at 500 MHz - on an Intel 430TX chipset board - if you aren't old enough to remember, the fastest processor that board was designed for was a Pentium 233 MMX. It's got a hacked bios and the PCI bus is running WAY over spec, but it's stable.

[jfk]

As an example, my Linux box is running an AMD K6-2 at 500 MHz - on an Intel 430TX chipset board - if you aren't old enough to remember, the fastest processor that board was designed for was a Pentium 233 MMX. It's got a hacked bios and the PCI bus is running WAY over spec, but it's stable.

glc,

That is FUNNY man, I would have NEVER figured you for an OC'er. Sometimes tough to judge by the written word. Thanks for the chuckle AND the reminder to never prejudge folks.:D :D

[glc]

I'm not an overclocker - it's my play box. If it goes up in smoke (which it may do any time - the CPU fan sounds like a sick cow) I don't care, I have plenty more old parts around here. This machine (my main Windows box) is running stock as a stove. I couldn't overclock it even if I wanted to (which I do NOT) - it has an Intel branded motherboard.