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Chris_Rootes_Wizard
08-30-2006, 04:58 PM
Ha, redoing my computer list again. Couple of question.

New Budget £700

For a top end gaming computer, what is it to go with:

AMD AM2 Athlon 64 / Sempron (Socket 940)

or

AMD Athlon 64 / Sempron (Socket 939)

Because im confused, skt 940 AMD 2 better or worse? Id like to know one and fr all!

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core (Socket 939) - is that the best Amd have, anything better?

Is Sli really really needed? Is it worth it? Is that 2 video cards? (Please explain detailed, im in a confused mood today, and nothing is as it seems to be.)

2Gb RAM (x2 1gb) esential, or 1gb good enought until a furure upgrade? (x2 512)

Thanks.

Chris_Rootes_Wizard
08-30-2006, 05:07 PM
Also a very good mo/bo i'v got a few in mind. Any recomendataions? Like is said, confused mood, sorry for being a newbie. :)

Chris_Rootes_Wizard
08-30-2006, 07:22 PM
Okay, re done list, here goes.

Motherboard: Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 Nvidia NF4 ATX - Sound 2 x GIGA LAN 1394a USB 2.0
1066 MHz FSB SATA-R

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 (ADA4200BVBOX)
X2 4200+ socket 939Dual Core 2.2ghz 512kb and 512kb Cache

Case: XION II Black(Green LED) Steel Mid Tower Gaming Case No PSU

PSU: Hiper 580W Type-R Modular PSU - Blue

Memory: Kingston 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz Non-ECC CL3 (3-3-3) 184pin DIMM's (Kit of 2 x 512mb)

Video Card: Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 PCI-E

Hard Drive: HDD; Maxtor 6V250F0 250GB 7200rpm
SATAII 16mb Cache OEM

CD/DVD Drive: LiteOn SHM-165P6S-02C DVD±RW/RAM
Retail Kit With beige/black/silver bezels

Floppy Drive: Mitsumi 7-in-1 Floppy Drive / Media Drive SM/MS/MD/CF/MM/SD Silver

(I changed hdd, processor, video card and mo/bo)

Complete Total: £612.32 Wow £90 to spare

Mr.Ferrari
08-30-2006, 07:59 PM
939 for budget. And if your willing to go am2, mind as well go core 2 duo as its no comparision for the price.

See if you can swap that Kingston for some corsair value select. And get a kit. I.E 2x512mb.

Get this psu instead- FSP Sparkle AX500-A Blue Storm 500W ATX2.0 PSU (CA-005-SK)- 4th one down:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Sparkle_Power_Supplies.html

Chris_Rootes_Wizard
08-30-2006, 08:16 PM
"939 for budget. And if your willing to go am2, mind as well go core 2 duo as its no comparision for the price."

So AM2 Better? And im buying off Ebuyer btw :)

"AMD Athlon 64 (ADA4200BVBOX)
X2 4200+ socket 939Dual Core 2.2ghz 512kb and 512kb Cache"

Dual core? Or not the same thing?

"See if you can swap that Kingston for some corsair value select. And get a kit. I.E 2x512mb."

I have: " Kingston 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz Non-ECC CL3 (3-3-3) 184pin DIMM's **(Kit of 2 x 512mb)**"

"FSP Sparkle AX500-A Blue Storm 500W ATX2.0 PSU (CA-005-SK)- 4th one down:"

I looked, is it that much better, the one im planning on, someone elce here has it and says is good (cant remember who tho.)

blue60007
08-30-2006, 08:32 PM
AM2 is very new, and still has a couple bugs. The big issue is with memory compatibility. It's really picky about the RAM you use, and you *need* DDR2-800 to have the same performance as a comparable 939 system (DDR2-800 is also more expensive compared to DDR400, despite rising DDR prices). Socket 939 is more mature and more forgiving in terms of memory.

Mr.Ferrari
08-30-2006, 08:43 PM
No am2 is not better. Trying to say that there is no point in going am2. If your ready to spend that kinda money mind as well spend it on a better platform like conroe.

939 is a great stable platform for budget.

Here are the same links ebuyer.com :

I misread about the 2x512mb. My bad, but corsair is definately the way to go.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=21404932358&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=52057

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The Hiper isnt that bad. OEM'ed by Andyson, they also make alot of the sunbeam and aercool powersupplies, its based actually on a 550W unit. They tend to be right up there with fsp most of the time. But with the hiper they really cheaped out.
-Useing poor quality internals, mediocre efficiency and no PFC(basically pfc equates to cleaner power) make it a poor choice for the money.

Ebuyer doesnt have any fsps but they do have some other great choices, either one of these would power your rig nicely:
Seasonic S12 430W (http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/104478)
Antec TP2 480W (http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/90618)
Enermax FMA 535W (http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/95194)

And why in the world are you going for the top of the line Sli mobo?!?! You do know that a single 7900Gt would be a better choices versus two 7600GTs? And you do know that you need a little beefier psu to power that?

A8N5X for 50 is a very good choice. If I were you I would spend the money on some more ram instead..