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NewbBuilder
11-29-2006, 10:31 PM
Ok here is some things I have been looking at:

Graphics -
HIS Radeon X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo / 256MB GDDR3 / PCI Express / Dual DVI / HDTV / CrossFire Ready / Video Card: $244.99*

Motherboard -
ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard:
$134.99

Processor -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor:
$183.99

Memory -
CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory:
$132.00

Hard Drive -
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250620A 250GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM :
$79.99

PSU -
XClio 450BL ATX 450W Power Supply - Retail:
$39.99

So that totals $816, which is a little more than I wished to spend but i have to admit its a screamin machine. So is there anything else i need? Anymore fans? Does everything look alright? I had a hard time with the graphics card... I know you guys said the 7600GT would be fine but this seemed like a really good deal considering... plus I want the machine to run future games well.

newbuilder14
11-29-2006, 10:38 PM
Everything looks fine, good luck. Have you looked at the Sapphire x1950pro? Also, Xclio is very decent, but Fortron Source makes good units too for good prices, if they have a 450w power supply in stock at Newegg from FSP I'd get that.

NewbBuilder
11-29-2006, 11:03 PM
Hm.. what is the difference between the two? Would I be better of going with the sapphire?
Also what does OEM mean? just an off topic question

NewbBuilder
11-30-2006, 08:50 AM
Also in addition to my two questions, do i need to get a new case as well?

fleeingpepper
11-30-2006, 09:58 AM
If you're not going to use your old computer any more, then you could re-use that case. And on the difference between the two, I'm not too sure there are many. Both PSU makers have parts inside made by Channel Well, so they're essentially the same. I would go with the Xclio, I have that in my computer right now. Plus it has more combined amps on the +12v rail. And it has a rubber coating so it can't be shocked and stuff. OEM doesn't come with accessories or a nice box, just a brown box with the part itself.

Mr.Ferrari
11-30-2006, 11:23 AM
No, the FSP and the Xclio are made by two totally different companies.

The FSP is made essentially by FSP themselves. The Xclio BL is made by CWT, or Channel Well.

In terms of quality I would put both into the same placement. As the FSP is very dated and uses some of the same quality components as the Xclio. But the fsp might just last longer due to its better quality control and design over CWT/Xclio.

All in all with an X1950pro I would want someting a little better. These are the ones I would suggest:
Sunbeam NUUO 450W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709002) $50
Or
Enhance 500w (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5150GH) $70

fleeingpepper
11-30-2006, 01:00 PM
Oh, well in that case, yea. Each of those are only a little over the recommended +12v rails for that card anyways. Those two that you said would power it much better. Where were you when I asked how my Xclio would handle my X1950Pro. Oh well, haha.

A little off topic, but how's the weather down there Mr. Ferrari, I live in Tulsa and all the snow you're getting is heading this way...I think.

Mr.Ferrari
11-30-2006, 01:02 PM
LOL. Either the xclio or the fsp will "just" power it. Personally I'd prefer something of better quality when pairing up with these beefy ati cards.

And yeah, yesterday I was just about ready to jump into the pool. But damn..wake up today morning and theres ice on the roads. :(

NewbBuilder
11-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Hm.. so i should just stay with what i got? besides changing power supplies... hm ok well i will order soon hopefully everything will go smoothly!

NewbBuilder
12-01-2006, 07:13 PM
Ok... my wife has told me she wishes to have a laptop so the kids can play on it wherever they want to. So i concede because i know if shes not happy, then the family isnt happy. My question: where should i look for a good gaming laptop that will play the high intensity graphics games, like NWN2, that is reasonably priced?

newbuilder14
12-01-2006, 07:19 PM
Well, laptops don't get high end graphics cards. I would look into something from Dell that had something more than integrated graphics - not Intel graphics accelerator, but maybe something like integrated x1300 graphics. Also go with 1gb of RAM if you can.

Mr.Ferrari
12-01-2006, 07:50 PM
Not true, I've seen some with SLI on them.

On most high end laptops you will see modular GFX components. That you can switch out.

Keep in mind they arent cheap. Look at www.dell.com and www.newegg.com and www.powernotebooks.com

andper10
12-01-2006, 07:53 PM
Yeah, you won't be able to do much gaming with a laptop. Just in case you change your mind, the FSP AX-450 is a good power supply choice, b/c it has 36A on the 12V rails but the Xclio only has 32A. From a quick google, the X1950Pro's are suppossed to have at least 450 Watts w/ 30A on 12V rail(s). Personally, I would think that the Xclio would be cutting it too close, but the FSP would be just enough extra for me to buy it.

Mr.Ferrari
12-01-2006, 07:56 PM
Internal parts of both are actually equal. Xclio has a newer design whereas the FSP has a very dated one. But the FSP would probally last longer.

However I would personally not suggest either. At a minimum I would take a Sunbeam Nuuo 450W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709002), or something decent in the 500W range.

The x1950pro's new PCB design is acting iffy with power consumption.