Torn between 2 cpus

[eaglestrike7339]

ok, here my problem

I want a low end light-usage gaming computer for games light on the system (a graphic light fps, and then the upcoming Spore sim-type game), then also word processing and the like.
There are 2 processors i would consider having are the first 2 results here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343+50001157+1050706985+1260016266&Subcategory=343&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
There is practically no cost difference, and both have practically the same clock speed. the differences are the manufacturing precision and the FSB.

which should i go for? is there a difference between the two that would make a system difference (other than the mobo)?

[Khalil]

They are both 800 FSB. I think I would go with the 65nm because if I am not mistaken they are faster and run cooler regardless of fsb and clock speed.

[Cricket]

ok, here my problem

I want a low end light-usage gaming computer for games light on the system (a graphic light fps, and then the upcoming Spore sim-type game), then also word processing and the like.
There are 2 processors i would consider having are the forst 2 results here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343+50001157+1050706985+1260016266&Subcategory=343&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
There is practically no cost difference, and both have practically the same clock speed. the differences are the manufacturing precision and the FSB.

which should i go for? is there a difference between the two that would make a system difference (other than the mobo)?Are you dead set on getting a Prescott P4? They're old tech and tend to run on the hotter side and performance isn't very good. If your budget allows, try looking at some of the Pentium D 9xx models. Cooler running with better performance. Better yet, if you can swing a C2D you'd get real performance and a computer that should meet your needs for years to come.

:) Cricket

[glc]

Let's back up just a bit. What motherboard are you going to use?

[eaglestrike7339]

the PDs are better? i was under the impression they were the low ends... curse this odd processor naming fad!;)

My goal is to have a comp that is reasonably cheap, so... yup.

i was going to look for a mobo once i had a processor i was going to use, so i am open to anything now.

[LeftyAce]

Open to anything? In that case, get a Core2Duo e6300 with an ASUS P5B Motherboard.

Actually, what's your budget. That would be a good starting place :-)
Also, do you already have any parts? (Monitor, kb, mouse, harddrive, cd drive, etc).

[eaglestrike7339]

basicly i have a lower budget, and i will check back in after i figure out approx. how much i can spend on each thing, but i was thing much more budget minded than that.

I have everything but the comp itself, other than that, i have a few unknown spec 512 ram sticks, and a celeron D in a dead comp (BIOS problem, nothing to do with CPU). I am willing to keep or throw out these parts, so use or not, either is fine.

though what would a complete system like you mentioned above cost? and at the risk of unwelcome forum cliche, is there a possibility to go AMD? The c2d of just a bit out of my reach at the moment, and wil continue to be for while.

(looked at threads bout amd vs intel, didnt work to well for me)

ty
eagle

**edit** one last thing, what type of a connector would a floppy need to connect to the mobo? what socket is needed? (lack of known word, srry for confusion)

[glc]

You can get a motherboard that is C2D-compatible and put a P-D in it now till you are ready to upgrade. Look at the Asus P5L-MX and a P-D 915. Can you fit that in? You will need DDR2-667 ram.

[flanzig1]

Could you give a price for the budget? And the computer your thinking of using parts from, is it a prebuilt one from Dell/HP/Emachine/etc? If so what is the make and model.
From the sound of it, you probably need a new tower(case/PSU/mobo/CPU/ram. My be able to use the old HD and optical drive and floppy.

[danielson]

I think I know what you're looking for. And yes, AMD is definitely the way to go for a super budget system. check this out.

BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 $78.99 newegg
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $109
EVGA GeForce 7600GT $89 after M.I.R.
OCZ Value Series 1GB PC-5300 $66 after M.I.R.
Antec SonataII Case w/450 power supply $50 after M.I.R.
Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB $59
Lite On CD/DVD Burner $35

That system runs you $450 and it's a bit of overkill for what you need but it will last you a long time. It will handle any game you throw at it, and all your home office needs.

[jer888]

I think I know what you're looking for. And yes, AMD is definitely the way to go for a super budget system. check this out.

BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 $78.99 newegg
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $109
EVGA GeForce 7600GT $89 after M.I.R.
OCZ Value Series 1GB PC-5300 $66 after M.I.R.
Antec SonataII Case w/450 power supply $50 after M.I.R.
Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB $59
Lite On CD/DVD Burner $35

That system runs you $450 and it's a bit of overkill for what you need but it will last you a long time. It will handle any game you throw at it, and all your home office needs.

it will last until AM2+ comes out then AM3. I think you would be better of going intel and get a PD in it now then you will be able to move to Core 2 duo or whatever intel comes out with.

[KilluminatiStyle]

I thought I read somewhere, quite some time ago, that the AM3 CPU's would fit and work in AM2 sockets? Like I said, I read that some time ago and never really followed up on it so I'm not sure. However, if that is the case then going with a budget AM2 build may not be a bad idea. It would definately save the man some skrilla.

[Mr.Ferrari]

AM3's will be on their own platform I believe. AM2+ cpu's will be compatible with current AM2 motherboards, but you will loose some of the features.

AM3 cpu's will require their own motherboards and newer DDR3 memory.

[KilluminatiStyle]

After I posted I went and did some digging and came up with this...

AM2+ CPU's can go into AM2 sockets but lose features and AM2 CPU's can go into AM2+ sockets but gain nothing.

AM2+ can go into AM3 sockets but gain nothing.

I just read all of this like 5 minutes ago and now can't find the darn link.

[Khalil]

AM3's will be on their own platform I believe. AM2+ cpu's will be compatible with current AM2 motherboards, but you will loose some of the features.

AM3 cpu's will require their own motherboards and newer DDR3 memory.
That is exciting news I can't wait. :cool:

Is anyone making DDR3 memory yet? other than those on Video cards.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Supertalent has some ES (early sample) stuff out.

Basically almost 2 fold increase in bandwith with just as tight or tighter timings.

[Khalil]

Supertalent has some ES (early sample) stuff out.

Basically almost 2 fold increase in bandwith with just as tight or tighter timings.

What are your expectations for the AM3s? Do you think they will dominate like the C2Ds are dominating now?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Beats me..http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6524/shrugzj5.gif.

As leaked benchies start to appear..we should have a better idea..