Water Cooling Kit

[Spearball]

Which offers better cooling not looking at the price?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17736&vpn=FREEZONE&manufacture=CoolIT%20Systems

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15937&vpn=CL-W0005-01&manufacture=THERMALTAKE

[Mr.Ferrari]

Neither, make it custom or stick with air.

[Spearball]

Thanks Mr Ferrari. So i guess ill go with your advice and go custom. I want a lot of overclocking ability. Can anyone suggest any good parts because I'm totally new to water cooling. :)

[Mr.Ferrari]

Sure, first check this link (http://forum.pcmech.com/showpost.php?p=1143288&postcount=8) out and the other guide I linked in it. It has all you need to know about water cooling.

As for the parts, www.petrastechshop.com is the place to go for all your needs. Good guys and good service. They also have their own watercooling kits, which are nothing more then a bundle of pre existing, quality, aftermarket parts that they ship with a step by step guide.

Or if you give me your budget and what you want to watercool exactly, we can help pick out custom parts.

Good luck.

[Spearball]

My budget is anywhere from 200$ to 300$ CAD. I want to be able to cool two video cards and cpu.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Thats a very reasonable number.

Just fyi, petrastechshop will ship to canada and overseas upon request. But buying it from ncix or the such would no doubt be easier if they have everything.

However if you must have a kit with instructions, the only one that is reasonable is Swiftech's (H20-220 Apex). Its just like the ones I talked about earlier. Individual quality parts just bundled and shipped together with instructions.

You would probably get a little better bang/buck with individual part choices, though swiftech's kit is pretty decent.

Up to you, if you do go with the kit, you'll need to buy a second GPU block for the additional card.

[Spearball]

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20943&vpn=H20-220-APEX-ULTRA+&manufacture=Swiftech

If this is what your talking about ill take it :) Thanks for the help guys.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Thats the one but, the Ultra+ you just linked is more expensive due to the addition of a GPU and Northbridge waterblock. Im not sure whether or not you want a northbridge block, but if not, your better off buying the non "+" version and adding a GPU block and maybe some extra tubing (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19864&vpn=5/8OD10FT&manufacture=Swiftech).

Whatever you decide, just one word of caution, don't over do the Hydrx to the distilled water. I've seen many make this mistake and they end up with clogged pumps and waterblocks. Something like a 1:10 or 1:9 concentration is a good idea.

[Spearball]

If i go with the less expensive one, what would be a good gpu cooler. I noticed some are pretty expensive and it ends up being as expensive as buying the set with the gpu and chipset cooler.

[Mr.Ferrari]

You could buy the normal one plus the MCW60 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19859&vpn=MCW60&manufacture=Swiftech). If you don't need the ramsinks get the one without (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19767&vpn=MCW60-B&manufacture=Swiftech).

Still comes out roughly 35-50 cad cheaper not including 10 for some extra tubing if neccesary. But its totally up to you, its your money bro.

[Spearball]

Well thanks again Mr. Ferrari i got the system and its working great my cpu and gpus are running nice and cool even while overclocked.

[Spearball]

Oh yea forgot to add something. Was it better for me to connect the output of the radiator to the cpu or the output of the pump to the cpu?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Ideally you want to output the radiator to the inlet of the CPU block, but if you did it with the pump its fine, the temperature difference should be unoticable (<1c) since this is a closed loop.

Rule of thumb=Whatever gets you the shortest amount of tubing used, as thats more beneficial then the order of the pump or radiator.

[Spearball]

Sorry keep adding things as i remember lol. You said to add 1/10 or 1/9 of hydrix of the distilled water. I added 1/3 of the whole hydrix bottle in 1 liter of water is this too much? Its still a lot less than the whole thing as swiftech recommends the whole bottle in 1 l.

[Mr.Ferrari]

That fine; I don't know why swiftech recommends such a high concentration of hydryx. It has been shown a countless number of times to thicken, and clog the pins of the waterblocks and really stain the tubing.

Actually, you technically don't even need any hydryx, its only purpose is to destroy bacteria and algae, and to prevent corrosion. However in a system which uses only copper components (yours), corrosion is a non-issue. All you really need is something to kill the algae.

1/3 was a good amount, you honestly shouldn't have any issues.

[Spearball]

You've helped me a lot since this is my first time. :) Just last question before we close it up. I noticed that there is pressure build up in the water tank. Is this normal or do i have to fill up the water all the way to the top?

Thanks for all the help and support

[Mr.Ferrari]

You mean like air bubbles? Thats just the air still being bleed out probably. But yes I would try to fill it up as close to the top as possible, but not too high for the first few days as the water level might increase and decrease slightly upon pump shutoff since there is still a bit of air in the loop.

After 2 or 3 days it should become stabilized.