Asus A7V133 setup question

[hoemee]

Can someone please tell me how to setup my hard drive, cdrom, and cdrw on the IDE channels. I am a little confused - There are primary and secondary ATA-100 IDE channels, and just plain primary and secondary IDE channels. MY hard drive is IMB 40 gig 7200 rpm, the cdrom is generic and the CDRW is plextor 16/10/40.
What is the correct setup up as far as which one is primary(secondary) and on what channel?

thanks

hoemee

[Demosthenes]

Harddrive should be on Primary Master (ATA 100). It works best there.

I usually put my CD-RW and ROM on the Secondary Master and Slave respectfully. I do not do burning on the fly, though.

If you want to burn from CD to CD, it helps if they are on opposing channels. Put the one you will use most on the Secondary. That way, you can use the CD-ROM/RW and HD efficiently. Personally, I would put the RW on the Secondary and ROM on the primary (because I use my RW more). But, remember, this is only if you want to use the CD-ROM and RW simultaneously without many problems. This will probably slow the ATA-100 down also, so it is not recommended.


However, with all the buffer underrun protection and such, I think you can ignore everything I have said and put them anywhere you want. Let the Burn-proof handle the problems. The only important note is to set the jumpers accordingly.

Respectfully,

Demosthenes

[hoemee]

This is what I've got - HD on ATA100 primary, master setting. CDrom on primary IDE, set to master. CDRW on secondary IDE, set to master. My problem has not been corrcted. I think it is a windows specific fault. I posted this question in another forum under a different topic, but here it is - when in the my computer window and I right click on the D: or E: drives to attempt to display properties, nothing happens. The computer just hangs up. I end up having to hit ctrl-alt-del then end task to get out. Any ideas?

[Cricket]

Hi hoemee,

Are you using a 80 wire ATA66/ATA100 IDE cable with your hard drive? You'll need it if you want to enable DMA for your ATA100 hard drive (you have a IBM 40 GB right?) and set the jumper to Cable Select. CD-ROMs and CD-RW's are usually ATA33, so you would only use the older 40 wire IDE cable on those devices and set the jumper settings to Master and Slave as necessary. Don't use the Cable Select jumper setting with 40 wire IDE cables.

I've had problems with some IDE devices when I enable DMA (particularly my TEAC CD540E CD-ROM)...the drive would hang the computer when I tried to access it. With DMA disabled, the drive works fine. Try running your CD-ROM and CD-RW with DMA disabled, if your system runs okay leave the CD-ROM DMA disabled and try to enable DMA for the Plextor (you'll need it enabled to make use of the Burn Proof feature). You may also want to go into BIOS and set your CD-ROM and CD-RW to PIO Mode 4 instead of AUTO (look in "Integrated Peripherals"). Check this website for more information regarding BIOS settings: http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/BIOS_Guide/BIOS_Guide_Index.htm

Check out this website for help with CD-RW related problems:
http://www.cdrom-guide.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010855.html

I'm not familiar with RAID boards, but did you install all the proper drivers for your motherboard? Are you using the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers? Is the RAID controller enabled in BIOS?

:) Cricket

[hoemee]

Thanks for the reply Cricket - I am beginning to get frustrated.

I am using the 80 wire ATA 100 cable on the HD. I also have 80 wire on the CDROM, and 40 wire on the CDRW. You are saying that I should set the jumper on the HD to cable select?

You have a lot of info in your last post, but you'll have to spoon feed me - as far as the 4 in 1 drivers - I have downloaded what I believe to be the latest drivers version .133. How do I check to see what is on my machine now?

Also, what is DMA and how do I disable it on my CDROM and CDRW?

Lets not talk bios for now - that's too scary:)!!!!

[TEEB]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hoemee
[B]This is what I've got - HD on ATA100 primary, master setting. CDrom on primary IDE, set to master. CDRW on secondary IDE, set to master. My problem has not been corrected. QUOTE]

If you have all your drives set to master as you have stated you'll have to change one to *slave*. I have mine set this way ATA 100 HDD master on the primary, CDROM as slave on the Primary. CDRW as master on the Secondary and my old HDD as a slave on the secondary!!

HTH

[hoemee]

O.K this is what I have now: Hard drive to master on primary ATA 100 IDE channel, CDROM to slave on primary IDE channel, and CDRW to master on secondary IDE channel.
I went into my bios and noticed that the hard drive is not being detected - how can I correct this?

hoemee

[Cricket]

Hi hoemee,

Like I said earlier, I'm not familiar with the motherboard you're using and I don't have any experience with RAID motherboards. Have you read your motherboard manual? Does it tell you or have some kind of illustration for which controller to use if you are not using a RAID set up?

Yes, you have to set the jumper on the IBM hard drive to Cable Select as that's what the 80 wire cable requires. For now, just put your hard drive on the primary IDE controller.

For your CD-RW and CD-ROM, put them both on the secondary IDE controller and set the jumpers on the CD-RW to master and the CD-ROM to slave. Use a regular 40 wire IDE cable here.

I don't own a AMD Athlon PC (I'm an Intel guy) so I'm not really sure if the following is correct. I'm trying to do this from memory...I've put together 4 AMD Athlon PC's for friends in the past 2 months (none of them wanted an Intel PC).

To enable or disable DMA, it really depends on which VIA Bus Master Driver you installed. If you installed the VSD drivers, you'll find the option for DMA in Device Manager. Right click on "My Computer" and choose "Properties"> once the System Properties box appears, click on the Device Manager tab> click on the "+" next to CD-ROM to expand the device tree> click on either the CD-ROM or CD-RW to highlight it and then click Properties> click on the "Settings" tab and look for the DMA option box> if it's checked, it's enabled...try clicking on it again to disable the option and then click on Apply> repeat those steps for your other CD-ROM device> when you're done, click Okay and you'll be presented with a box that says you have to restart your PC for the changes to take effect...click Okay and let your PC reboot> go back to Device Manager to see if the changes did indeed take effect. Try accessing your drives again.

If you chose to install the VIA Miniport driver, you'll have access to DMA option through a program found in the Start> Programs> VIA IDE Tool (not sure of this title). I think the Miniport driver is only available on the CD that came with your motherboard, I don't think it's in the 4-in-1 driver. I'm not sure how you go about setting DMA with this tool, you'll have to read the Help files or wait for another forum member to come along and help.

After you've changed your drives around, restart your PC in Safe Mode (start your PC, wait until you see "Verifying DMI pool data...", press and hold the Ctrl key and you'll be taken to the Boot Menu. Choose Safe Mode and hit Enter), go to Device Manager and check to see if you have any duplicate devices listed. Remove the duplicates and restart your PC.

Do you mean you installed the VIA 4-in-1 4.33 drivers? You can get the latest drivers from this website: http://www.viatech.com/jsp/en/index.jsp

Is this your first build? Take your time and don't panic...you'll get your PC up and running with the help of the members here.

:) Cricket

[hoemee]

All set now - the problem was my umfamiliarity with the mobo. The primary and secondary ATA 100 plug ins are used for RAID setups. Once I got straightened out and just used the regular plug ins for primary and secondary IDE, everything worked fine.

Thanks

hoemee

[Cricket]

Hi hoemee,

Glad you got it all sorted out. Enjoy your new PC!

:) Cricket

[Alfie]

I believe the additional raid controllers can also be used as regular controllers.
With the Promise controllers on Asus motherboards,it's advised to install the hard drive on the standard ide controllers and install the OS.
Once the OS is up and running,install the Promise drivers(found on the cd that came with mobo) and make sure the Promise udma 100 controllers have been assigned an IRQ of their own.
Once the Promise controllers are fully operational,one can use them as seperate controllers and configured as you've previously done.
The ability to have 4 devices set to master and 4 devices set to slave.
Leaving the possibilty of implementing Raid further down the road.
Please correct me if I'm wrong(as far as using the Raid controllers as standard controllers)

[cobra]

Hoemee,
I posted about this, but for some reason, maybe my lame 56k dialup, it did not get posted. I have that motherboard, and suggested (in my ghost post) you put it on the "other" ide channels, because you are probably using the raid channels, although you can boot to the raid channels, by just hitting f6 when you install window2k and inserting the driver disk. But seemd you have it under control, sorry I was late.
good luck.