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castlef
10-31-2001, 01:00 AM
Technically, .NET appears to be a sound architecture that can deliver the goods. But that's like saying Mussolini made the trains run on time. Great job, but let's check out the dungeons.

The loophole that lets applications drill down to access native Windows services "for performance" will completely destroy the nominal cross-platform capability of the .NET architecture, and it's difficult to visualise Microsoft wringing its hands over this. If anything, they will encourage building Windows hooks into .NET applications to effectively reduce them to Windows applications. Microsoft is not in the cross-platform business. Microsoft is in the proprietary platform business. Those hoping for .NET to provide a level playing field between Windows and Linux will be sadly disappointed. The friendly fire of performance purists in the .NET camp will end that idealistic crusade.

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Third, there has been a good deal of FUD from Microsoft on the legality of Open Source efforts to clone .NET. At the same time, they eagerly use these initiatives as proof of .NET's widespread acceptance. Indeed, it seems likely that the more successful these ventures are, the greater will be Microsoft's incentive to derail them. Sun was able to obtain the help of the courts to stop Microsoft from polluting Java, but can Open Source legally prevent Microsoft from making proprietary extensions to .NET in future? It's their own technology! They can do anything they like with it. So swimming with the Microsoft shark is definitely a dangerous pastime that is better avoided. .NET is a proprietary technology, regardless of appearances. In the web era of open standards, that should be sufficient reason to damn it.

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-10-28-003-20-OP-LF-MS

SOLUTION:

I want to see an Open Source, Java-based implementation of SOAP, WSDL and UDDI running on top of JBoss, and configurable graphically.

castlef
10-31-2001, 01:19 AM
sorry for the broken link....fixed

dj4uk
10-31-2001, 03:21 AM
Sun have come up with a rival to .NET called Sun One based on J2EE.

The strategy is reminiscent of Microsoft's .Net programme, which aims to help businesses provide Web-based services for better communication with customers.

However, Bauhaus argued that Sun One would not lock users into any one operating system, while users would be tied to Windows under Microsoft's .Net strategy.

Sun One tools and technologies will provide the architecture, platform and support to develop and deploy services on demand, Bauhaus said. This will give businesses the ability to provide information, data and applications anywhere, anytime and on any device, and using open standards that work with a wide array of operating systems and applications.

"Sun One provides a future-proofed business model that supports open standards with the ability to integrate," said Sun chairman and chief executive Scott McNealy.

Sun unveiled its overall Sun One strategy earlier this year. The Sun One Starter Kit has recently been made available for developers, including four CDs of applications and documentation.

Lets hope they get the upper hand over .NET

castlef
10-31-2001, 10:22 AM
If you think open source variations of .NET are actually going to make a difference, except to M$'s public relations department, then you are sadly mistaken.

dj4uk
10-31-2001, 11:11 AM
Okay so .NET will get a large chunk of market share which is undeniable as it is bundled with M$ software.
But look at Java that has survived M$'s global takeover and ain't doing to bad. Whos to say Sun One won't do the same?