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alan
12-14-2001, 03:00 PM
you were the US soldier who kicks down the door to a cave, gun at ready, and find bin Laden in the cave? Would you just call him a MF and shoot, beat the hell out of him and let him live or haul him away just as you would any other high security prisoner? It would be tempting to finish him when he is in your gunsights!!

shecky981
12-14-2001, 03:12 PM
what i would do i cannot repeat on these boards as it is something i would not want a young child to see.

clydefo
12-14-2001, 03:25 PM
I would follow my rules of engagement, which usually don’t include murder. I would hope he is captured and executed but only after he has been fairly tried in a US court, as a criminal, where an unassailable record of the evidence can be laid out. Then ten to twelve years in an isolated cell on death row with a TV so he can watch the destruction of his organization and the decline of radical Islam before he is “put to sleep”.

SARGE
12-14-2001, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by clydefo
I would follow my rules of engagement, which usually don’t include murder. I would hope he is captured and executed but only after he has been fairly tried in a US court, as a criminal, where an unassailable record of the evidence can be laid out. Then ten to twelve years in an isolated cell on death row with a TV so he can watch the destruction of his organization and the decline of radical Islam before he is “put to sleep”.

Yeah, be sure he gets a fair trial with solid evidence. Heard a Harvard law professor stating the same. Perhaps we should examine his childhood for evidence of neglect, abuse or other factors that made him what he is. Surely he is a product of his environment and must be handled fairly, with compassion and sensitivity. Makes me puke.

bob
12-15-2001, 12:07 AM
I would scalp his beard including his lips. After that I would be going to Disneyland. :D

mairving
12-15-2001, 07:12 AM
I think first that you would retire from the marines. Then you would be elligble for the reward.

It's kind of a silly question anyway. For years, people in the armed forces have had to deal with capturing the enemy. The very same enemy that they had just seen kill one of their friends. This would be no different. People in the armed forces are professionals. They would do the job. They would also have their finger on the trigger since Osama probably has a nuke in his pocket.

AzCoastie
12-15-2001, 08:10 AM
Lets jump back to reality for a moment... A United States Soldier will never be in a cave with Bin Laden alone and with what Bin Laden has done in the past, he won't allow himself to be captured alive! He'll go out in a blaze of gun fire and try to take some of our young men and women with him! Kinda like suicide by cop!

BTW, the men and women of the United States Armed Forces are professionals following the orders of the President of the United States and the Officers appointed over them... They are trained day in and day out to follow lawful orders and murder isn't a lawful order!

Is it wrong to want to free the world of Bin Laden after what he has done? No... Absolutely not! But, the professionals serving the people of the United States know the difference between their personal feelings and their orders!

Every member of the United States Armed Forces knows that following lawful orders WILL keep them alive!

God Bless America and our fighting men and women... May he bring them home safely!

LawyerRon
12-15-2001, 10:12 AM
Sorry Clyde, but it wouldn't be murder to shoot him on site as the defense of "Self Defense" would apply. I could make a great argument for Self Defense based on the plethora of facts available. The soldier would have certainly heard all the very credible stories of how bin Laden would "not be taken alive", intended to "blow himself" up, etc., etc. The Soldier would certainly be in immediate fear of his life. For the defense of "Self Defense" to fly, it need only be deemed "reasonable". The "reasonable" element is clearly present here based on bin Laden's past acts. Therefore, a charge of murder would not be forthcoming.

Fire away troops; you needn't worry.

clydefo
12-15-2001, 11:50 AM
<b>LawyerRon,</b>
I agree that as a practical matter it’s hard to imagine a GI being charged with murder unless his actions were as egregious as the Mi Lai massacre. And even in such a case, the Army would go into it’s automatic cover-up mode. If his orders were to execute Bin Laden due to the fact that he is deemed to be too dangerous to apprehend in a war context, then he is no doubt off the hook. But if Bin Laden were, say, naked, wounded and unconscious when encountered and shot, I would have trouble calling that self-defense, in spite of his past threats. The GI is likely to know in his own mind if he is committing murder. I wouldn’t want it on my conscience, even if they called me a hero.

Besides, a captured Bin Laden might be an intelligence bonanza. He may not be able to resist bragging about his agents and their planned terror.

alan
12-17-2001, 03:20 PM
Even though I personally suffered no direct losses at the WTC, Pentagon or PA, I have this feeling of rage to take it out on him. I guess realizing the emotion should not cloud judgement is what separates us from terrorists.
I suppose that UBL the combat casualty would make him an even great martyr. A captured UBL would be the ultimate humiliation and insult. Of course we'd have to shave that beard lest he hide a weapon in that hairy mess!!

freptide
12-31-2001, 10:43 AM
I wouldnt kill him. I would put him in a cell on a deserted Island inhabited by
Catholic priests. In his cell would be a TV which would have one program
on it 24/7. The 700 club!

glc
12-31-2001, 01:06 PM
This last post was reported to the moderator by a member that has taken offense - let's keep in mind that religion is a subject that can very easily lead to people being offended and we ask you to please not go there. Thank you.

freptide
12-31-2001, 01:15 PM
sorry about that. I guess I didnt have to be that specific.

KR0316
12-31-2001, 01:29 PM
Osama Bin Laden wouldn't allow himself to be captured alive and he would probably take some service men and women with him so it wouldn't be murder it would be self defense. I don't know if I would want to take him prisoner because of the amount of people in the United States that think we are wrong in what we are doing and the way the justice system works sometimes all it would take is a good defense lawyer and alot of money he could be let off or go to prison and be on parole in 10 years. We know Bin Laden has alot of money.

wazzat
12-31-2001, 01:41 PM
I'm sorry, but if I followed my feelings I would stick the largest firearm I could find...preferably a 40mm howitzer...in his mouth and pull the trigger. I think that would go a long way toward wiping that smile off his face. Might even blow that rag off his head. But then, I probably wouldn't follow my feelings.....wouldn't know unless I was actually put in that position. I'll admit, Osama annoys me. Bill