Stupid Parents..............

[BrettRandell]

Hey Everyone,
this is a story about my stupid parents.

It starts like this. My brother wanted to use the hair dye that I payed for (blue colored), but i didn't want him to, so I said I would hide it and if he found it he could use it. Well, i have a family computer, so I put it on the inside of our HP printer on the side. HE DIDN'T FIND IT. Today when i get home from my friends, my dad tells me i owe him 25 dollars cuz hes a freaking idiot. (well he didn't actually say that). He said the printer wasn't working and he checked inside and saw a blue bottle laying on the bottom of the inside of the printer....and thought it was supposed to be there. So he spent 1 hour on the phone with a company spending 25 dollars for some reason only to realize that it was a bottle of hairdye and when he took it out the printer worked.

Now they started saying all this stupid stuff so it ends up that I can't buy and build the computer i wanted to make! They said i can't use my bank account money cuz its for college. And i said i allrready have a college acount. So they tried to make up an excuse and said "oh....but....hmmm...yeah thats your college account to" So now i have to find a way to raise 600 dollars from scratch....

Damn. Why must people be stupid and ignorant.

-me

[Paul Victorey]

Moving this to General, as this isn't really a hardware problem.

[BrettRandell]

Oops. Sorry about that.

[LawyerRon]

Your negligence was the cause of your Parent’s $25 in damages so there’s really no issue. Pay up.

p.s.: If your dad can prove your act was intentional and with malice, he's entitled to punative damages.

[DrZaius]

I think your Dad is over reacting. It was just a mistake (kind of funny if you think about it... blue die bottle... blue ink cartridge) and you certainly didn't do anything bad on purpose. And if you know enough to build your own system, he definately should have waited for you to get home and see what the problem was before calling anyone and paying.

[homie27]

You should pay your dad $25 bucks just for letting you out of the house with blue hair!!! ;)

[BrettRandell]

Thats what I'm thinking Dr. Zaius.

Haha. My hair isn't blue NOW, but it was a few months ago.
Ehhh. I will probably find a way to get my parts! I will prevail
-me

[LawyerRon]

Quote:
“I will probably find a way to get my parts! I will prevail”

Well, at least you’re persistent!

[Furius92]

You could always *cough* get a job *cough*. But I agree with the good doctor.

[whr2206]

yeah, yo could join the working class. I've done some really dumb things...that have cost over 1,000 bucks....but i paid my dad off..... Yeah but I think he is overeacting a little

[Frey Grimrod]

Am I incorrect in thinking that alotta the $$$ in his bank account he placed there himself by having a job? I learned real fast to NOT show my parents the $$$ I made. They would always try to pull stuff like that. Do I save my $$$? Sure. of course not so much anymore all my cash is kinda heading twards bills... anyways if you didnt place the $$$ in ur bank account sure they can keep it from u but if You placed 600$+ I there on your own whine bitch moan and complain till the cows come home. If that doesnt work you could always try rationally explaining your position. And if all else fails firebomb the house for the sheer ejoyment of it, sorry the pyro is comming through. Your dad was indeed a bit ignorent to not wait till you got home. However I think it will be easier to just pay the 25$ than explain that to him....

[audiyoda]

Let's see.....who put the bottle of blue hair dye in the printer....who didn't tell anyone that it was there.....who forgot to take the bottle out of the printer after it was determined the little brother could not find it.....who should have thought that maybe by putting that bottle in the printer, the printer might not function correctly.

Stop gripping, shut up, pay your Dad, and save your money to build your computer.

Good gawd, it's ungrateful, disrespectful kids like this that are the best examples of why my wife and I use birth control.

-Craig

[Jenni]

Being a little hard on the kid, aren't you Audiyoda? Everyone makes mistakes. And if he worked and earned the money he's talking about, I think he should be allowed to do what he wants with it.

BrettRandell, learn from your mistakes. Hiding blue hair dye in the family printer is not the smartest thing in the world to do. It could have leaked and ruined the printer, so I would say you are getting off easy with the $25. And your parents can't be all that bad if they let you have blue hair. Most parents would have a cow if their son asked if it was ok to dye his hair blue, or killed you if you did it without asking. Since you had blue hair and you're still around to tell about it, they can't be all that bad.

Reason with your parents. Maybe you can talk them into funding your new build. Call it a learning opportunity. My 18 year old brother has his own computer repair business, and has had it for 2 years. He learned most of what he knows from working on/building his own computers.

[audiyoda]

I don't think I'm being hard on him at all. All my life I've lived up to my mistakes -- I was taught at an early age that there are certain consiquences to my actions -- good or bad. But today, it seems that if someone screws up, it's not their fault. No one want's to take ownership of their actions and I get sick of it. When I saved money for soemthing when I was living under my parents roof I respected their opinion on how I should spend it -- that doesn't mean I always followed their advice, but I listened. And if I made a mistake in my spending, I paid the price. Same held true if I had money to spend but had screwed up in some way -- penence was not getting to spend my money -- that was a real good motivator to following the rules of the road.

Bottom line is I had and still have the utmost respect for my parents. Kids today seem to have forgotten who brought them into this world, who pays their bills, who puts food on their plate, who's there to get them out of trouble......I could go on and on.

Anyway -- anyone who calls their parents "stupid and ignorant" deserves a swift kick in the nads. As LawyerRon states in his signature: "To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves"

-Craig

[lil Jimmie]

Pay your parents the $25.00 and own up to the fact that if you hadn’t put the hair dye in the printer this never would have happened. Take responsibility for you actions and stop redirecting the blame.

[KR0316]

Anyone who calls their parents ignorant and stupid is ignorant and stupid. Remember who provides room, board, and clothing. When I grew up I was taught of consequences to my actions. Nowadays you are a bad parent for that. Pay up and get a job (if you don't already have on) to raise money to build a computer. It also seems bad nowadays kids are just handed things and don't have to work for the most part that makes them ungrateful and disrespectful like poor little BrettRandell. I worked for everything I had (except room and board of course) and if I spent my money unwisely or didn't take my mothers advise I learned from the mistake but I always respected my parents in anyway and would never call them ignorant or stupid. I called my little sister ignorant and stupid all of the time but that was different.........lol.

[KR0316]

Originally posted by Jenni
Reason with your parents. Maybe you can talk them into funding your new build. Call it a learning opportunity.


That's all fine Jenni but someone who has to call their parents ignorant and stupid probably doesn't have the people skills needed to reason with their parents.

[bosco]

Originally posted by audiyoda

Anyway -- anyone who calls their parents "stupid and ignorant" deserves a swift kick in the nads

Id like to second that motion.:D
Fess-up/pay-up junior.

[HAL9000]

Here is what you do.

1) Admit your mistake
2) Pay your dad, admit your mistake again
3) Let your bro dye his hair blue with your dye (if you still have it)
4) Don't whine, bitch or complain, that will only work against you. Instead, come up with clear arguements on why you need to build this computer.
5) Approach your parents in a calm, collected manner. If you want to be treated like an adult, act like an adult. Admit your mistake, admit that you were being selfish, admit that it was stupid and that you will take the time to think things through.
6) Present your case (this will be well thought out).
7) Now you will prevail, don't gloat about it, they can change their minds again.
8) Request that this thread be deleted ASAP, just in case you're parents stumble across it.

[Curt]

As a Middle School teacher, I see this type of attitude all the time. Wonder how long he's gotten away with it. And we, the teachers, are supposed to fix these problems. Remember the TV show "Mission Impossible"? Oh yeah, that was make believe. Sorry, had to vent. I'm grading papers.

[audiyoda]

HAL-- spoken like a true Canadian. :)

Curt-- I feel your pain. May none of my children's habits need such corrective measures.

-Craig

[Paul Victorey]

Originally posted by HAL9000
Here is what you do.

1) Admit your mistake
2) Pay your dad, admit your mistake again
3) Let your bro dye his hair blue with your dye (if you still have it)
4) Don't whine, bitch or complain, that will only work against you. Instead, come up with clear arguements on why you need to build this computer.
5) Approach your parents in a calm, collected manner. If you want to be treated like an adult, act like an adult. Admit your mistake, admit that you were being selfish, admit that it was stupid and that you will take the time to think things through.
6) Present your case (this will be well thought out).
7) Now you will prevail, don't gloat about it, they can change their minds again.
8) Request that this thread be deleted ASAP, just in case you're parents stumble across it.

Well spoken, HAL. Too many times I see people go to absurd lengths to keep from admitting that they made a mistake, and, in doing so, only make things worse for themselves.

If more people followed your philosophy on problem solving, there would be a lot more arguments that ended with both parties being satisfied.

[Gintaras]

Originally posted by audiyoda
<FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE=1 COLOR=blue>I don't think I'm being hard on him at all. All my life I've lived up to my mistakes</font>


So does BrettRandell, and everyone else...

I DO learn from my own and mistakes of others do, even today...(that's why I don't have AMD:- Thanks to PC Mech Forums:))


[QUOTE]Originally posted by audiyoda
<FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE=1 COLOR=blue><b>Good gawd, it's ungrateful, disrespectful kids like this that are the best examples of why my wife and I use birth control.</b></font>

Don't want to experience what did your parents experienced?
:)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LawyerRon
<FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE=1 COLOR=blue><b>Your negligence was the cause of your Parent’s $25 in damages so there’s really no issue. Pay up.

p.s.: If your dad can prove your act was intentional and with malice, he's entitled to punative damages.</b></font>

This is nothing against Ron, but lawyers today do run "family business".
That's why it's very hard to teach/educate your own children. How many of US- older did understand words, and how many of nowadays children do understan words?

At the end- it's NO good to call "stupid" your own parents.
Just think: how you'd like to be called "stupid" when you'll have your own child[ren]?

<FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE=2 COLOR=red><b>TREAT THE OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED</b></font> That's my solution:)

[Toaster]

Hello folks,
When your folks give you the boot and say "your on your own pal", you might reconsider your stance. Sure its easy to claim ignorance and get off scott free but you learn NOTHING.
So...First off, I'd say no "blue hair dye" and no tatoos or peircings of ANY kind.
That way, when you become aware that folks could care less if your "cool" and you have your own life to live, you will be grateful.
I tell ya, you got it soooo easy....kick back...go to school, go partying....free dental and hospital care, 3 meals and a cot.....don't bitch...you wouldn't have gotten away NEARLY as easy with me.
You got it made, in a few years YOU can make all the decisions when its your place to do so. Simply because, any mistake YOU make is yours for LIFE.
So...apologize to your folks for being a self centered "teeny bopper" that puts more creedence in being cool then to "know" what your folks are prepping you for....LIFE...its a bitch!

[audiyoda]

Originally posted by Gintaras

Originally posted by audiyoda
<b>Good gawd, it's ungrateful, disrespectful kids like this that are the best examples of why my wife and I use birth control.</b>

Don't want to experience what did your parents experienced? :)

I don't want to experience what BrettRandell's parents are experiencing. Actually, according to my Mother (who visited our new digs today), I was a rather well behaved little audiyoda. Come's from good blood lines, better breeding and the best parents I could have asked for.

-Craig

[dead_eye]

What's the problem? I built my own computer with parents hovering over me, but I used my earned money. Get a job and when you have that money, they should let you do whatever you want with it. They might even be proud about you having a job and help out with the cost. Not only that, but since you have no other expenses, you have an almost unlimited budget.

[Nuclear Krusader]

But today, it seems that if someone screws up, it's not their fault. No one want's to take ownership of their actions and I get sick of it.
I completely agree. These last three years I've had to deal with that kind of people on a daily basis and I ended up pretty neurotic. Now, whenever I see someone acting that way my blood boils inside my veins!

I know very well that parents ain't always right, but I was taught that they always must be respected. And you have to address them with education. If you don't do that for love then at least do it for your own interest. It's very hard to argue with a mad parent.

If you don't respect your own parents, then it's likely you won't respect others, and if you don't treat people with respect you're in for a world of troubles.

[SARGE]

And the preacher said, "AMEN".

[archie]

Hey BrettRandell, pay up the small fee for your goofy mistake, don't ever call your parents studid, and when negotiating with them for getting that PC, prove to them that you have enough funds for your post secondary education and that the PC will be of benefit for that purpose.

[mkstein2]

Yeah, and that computer you're going to build with your money, it'll be sitting on a desk payed for by whom, in a room,payed for by whom, in a house, payed..., hooked to a phone line...?

You've got it so good, now and you don't even know.

A little gratitude goes a long way, show some.

MK

[Quadron_Computers]

Listen carefully get a job at your local computer or electronic store so you make money and get discounts on the parts you need

[Confused]

I don't see a lot of enhancement to the gene pool here.
Chas

[Reedimus]

I wonder what is more difficult: understanding your parents perspective as a child or understanding your child's perspective as a parent. maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to get along if we focused on understanding the other's perspective rather than trying to get the other to understand our own. not trying to judge anyone here, I believe if you've managed to coexist with a parent or a child at all without killing them you've had at least some measure of success.

[ylen13]

don't pay the $25.If you can build a computer then your dad should have been smart enough to wait for to see if u can figure out the problem before speending the money on the tech guy.

[SARGE]

Geez, the whole world is full of idiots.

[Jason Padgett]

Originally posted by Jenni
Reason with your parents. Maybe you can talk them into funding your new build. Call it a learning opportunity.

Probably wouldn't hurt to remind them that you'll probably be supporting THEM one day in their old age. By funding your build, the'll be investing in their future as you'll make a lot more money than the guy digging ditches. (Unless the guy digging ditches is union - in which case he's got you beat):D

[The_Judas]

Judging from most opinions i can guess that all pcmech members are parents
(or teachers) or just hate children!

I really don't get it,you just want to punish that kid real hard just for making a little mistake.Most of you had surely made bigger mistakes and gotten away with it in the past.
Hypocrisy is the only thing i can't stand.

Looks like parents never make mistakes!

[doctorgonzo]

I think people are being a bit hard on him for saying his parents are "stupid and ignorant." I think we have all thought that about our parents when we were teens. It's just part of growing up. Nor is it entirely his fault: it is usually the parents. My wife has been working as a nanny for a couple of years, taking care of suburban people's kids, and the parents tick me off to no end and make me want to institute parenting licenses. They cave in to their kids all the time, buy them whatever they want, shut them up by sticking them in front of the TV at home or even in the car for the luv of Jupiter, and generally make it all too clear that the important things in life are material objects and being entertained 24/7. One family spent more money a week on toys than paying my wife: an interesting take on priorities, spending more on plastic crap than the person who is responsible for the lives of your children more than 40 hours a week. And then the parents wonder why their kids grow up to be spoiled rotten holy terrors.

Audiyoda has it right: this is the reason for birth control. However, I think the birth control needs to be applied to these idiot parents who are wrecking the future with their moronic parenting. :mad:

[Jenni]

I'm a parent, my husband's a teacher, and there are times when I kids drive me crazy, especially my own! :D

I think what's got everyone so POed at BrettRandell is the fact that he called his parents "stupid" and "a freaking moron". And I agree, that is highly disrespectful. But, I did the same thing when I was his age. I think most teenagers think they know it all and the whole world should revolve around them. Now that I'm older and have kids of my own, I know how tough it must have been for my mom to put up with me. I love both of my parents. Even though it's been almost a year since my dad died, I still miss him very much and find myself crying at least 5 times a week. My mom, who I once told that I "hope you get run over by a truck" is my best friend. I'd do almost anything for her.

So, BrettRandell, I say this to you: what if the last thing you ever said to your dad was that he was "a freaking moron"? My dad was 46 when he had a heart attack and died. Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone. Appreciate what you have, you never know when it might be gone.

[Jason Padgett]

Originally posted by The_Judas
I really don't get it,you just want to punish that kid real hard just for making a little mistake. Hypocrisy is the only thing i can't stand.

No one here is being hyprocritical. And no one here wants to see Brett punished real hard for making a little mistake. I don't think his father did either. He only asked him to reimburse him the $25. What's missing here is how we went from a simple and appropriate punishment of $25 to taking away Brett's computer money. It's something that Brett has failed to elaborate on:

Originally posted by A Kid w/ Serious Attitude
It starts like this. -SNIP- Today when i get home from my friends, my dad tells me i owe him 25 dollars cuz hes a freaking idiot. -SNIP-

WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THERE AND HERE??

Now they started saying all this stupid stuff so it ends up that I can't buy and build the computer i wanted to make!

I would surmise that Brett displayed the same attitude with his parents that he did in this forum upon being asked to pay $25...in which case I think he's lucky he got off so easy. That's how his Dad went from asking to be reimbursed $25 to taking away all of his computer money. The only person Brett has to blame is himself...if he hadn't acted like the child he obviously is (maturity level) then he'd probably be installing his mobo today.

IMHO...maybe it didn't happen that way. I guess Brett will have to enlighten us...Brett?

[Mr N8]

I'm not a parent or a teacher. I'm a 22 year old who has gotten very far in life already by being respectful and taking resposiblity for my own actions. Don't expect the your dad will know everything about what YOU did to his computer. Admit that you put the dye there, apologize for your immature rantings, and pay up the $25. It would take you what, 5 hours at McDonalds to make that back? You may not think you need to grow up yet, which you don't, but a little respect and maturity goes a long way.

Nate

[HAL9000]

Originally posted by The_Judas
Judging from most opinions i can guess that all pcmech members are parents
(or teachers) or just hate children!


Yea, I'm a parent, but at 33, it was so long ago that I have forgotten what it is like to be a teen. I also know a lot of teens that come to me as a friend and I see them make the same mistakes that I did. You can't stop a teen from making a mistake, but you can advise them how to handle the mistake afterwards, this is where they are willing to listen.

My daughter is only 7, yet she insists that she knows better, so she makes her mistakes, but she also knows how to pay for them in a manner that is acceptable to me without me having to lay things down too hard on her.

[Nuclear Krusader]

Most of you had surely made bigger mistakes and gotten away with it in the past.
Sure thing! I've made a lot of mistakes and I paid dearly for them, man I'm still paying some of them and it seems that I'm gonna be suffering a little bit more before the due is paid.

What is important here is that you take responsibility for those mistakes you make, rather than redirecting the blame to the nearest person.

I'm not a parent yet, but my parents are teachers, my uncles and aunts are teachers and even my ex-gf is a teacher. So I learnt right from the start the importance of being responsible for my actions, right or wrong. And I learnt the meaning of education and that polite people get farther in life than those who are disrespectful. Sure, Brett is upset, and whe one is upset is pretty easy to think that everyone is against us and it's easy to say things that we regret later. I know that it's not always easy to get along with your parents (my Dad and me are always disagreeing, but we treat each other with respect), but hurling insults at them is not the way things should go.

I don't hate youngsters, it's not the person that annoys me, but the attitude.

My 2 cents.

[whr2206]

Originally posted by Reedimus
I wonder what is more difficult: understanding your parents perspective as a child or understanding your child's perspective as a parent. maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to get along if we focused on understanding the other's perspective rather than trying to get the other to understand our own. not trying to judge anyone here, I believe if you've managed to coexist with a parent or a child at all without killing them you've had at least some measure of success.

I beleive its both... I used to not appreciate what my parents did for me, but now i do. They pay th ebills, do some of the cleaning(i do the other half) cook me dinner and I still bitc* to them. But being teenager isnt the easiest thnig either. I still have to go to school,clean, and do work...

[Colonel Sanders]

I'd have to say that the *Dad* was quite ignorant and shouldn't have called tech support. Son is planning to build PC, son probbably knows solution to problem, too impatient, calls tech support makes a $25 bill because he is to impatient. He is embarrased because he wasted $25 for being impatient and thus demands he gets reimbursed his measley $25(which however in a teens mind is more than $25). Dad thinks kid messed up once, kid will mess up again, take $600 from him and put it into a college fund, problem solved: Kid punished, kid not going to waste money, no money lost, no embarrasment suffered.

Dad should have waited or at least not run up a $25 tech support bill. If he had attempted to trouble shoot the problem("hmm, bottle says hair-dye, should that be in there? not connect to anything, causing a blockage, maybe I should remove it?") he probbably could have soved it on his own, that is amazingly obvious when you think about.

However, Dad could just be 100% Pc illeteriate, but still he was upset simply because he was embarrased or felt the need to punish the kid for Dad's actions.

Logan

[SARGE]

I was well into my 20's when I discovered my Dad wasn't as dumb as I had thought. He suddenly became brilliant and right. Perhaps that's the norm. Jenni's right - appreciate 'em while they're still around.

[The_Judas]

I agree with the people that say that parents need respect and that the definition "stupid" for them was wrong.

Many parents try to cover their own mistakes by punishing their children in
various ways.Sometimes it's hard to communicate with their kids and when their
arguments are not very strong the easy way is punisment.

[Colonel Sanders]

Well, overall stupid? No. Computer-illiterate(sp?) and thus *stupid*? Yes. There are some subjects I know more about than my Dad, but once he gets into law and accounting and I just slowly slide away as not to draw too much attention. Will he think his Dad is as stupid when he is not still upset? Probbably not(??).

Logan

[Quadron_Computers]

This is www.PCMech.com not www.MyParentsBeatMe.com or www.DontPostIgnorantThreads.com

[SARGE]

And your point is...

[glc]

I think it's getting near time to wrap this thread up, folks. I think we have adequately crucified the original poster, who has not replied in quite a while, and we are now just bickering amongst ourselves. Unless someone can give me a good reason not to, I'm closing this thread tomorrow morning.

[SARGE]

Good point, glc. The thing that separates PCMech from the others is one not only gets & provides technical info, but can exert the "human" side as well, here in General Discussions. Dok, you and the other mods allow this but also keep a tight rein when things get close to the edge. The threads usually have a short life expectancy anyway. It's nice knowing folks have other interests besides the geek stuff. ;)

[ylen13]

Originally posted by glc
I think it's getting near time to wrap this thread up, folks. I think we have adequately crucified the original poster, who has not replied in quite a while, and we are now just bickering amongst ourselves. Unless someone can give me a good reason not to, I'm closing this thread tomorrow morning.
i tryed hard to find a reason to keep this thread open,but freankly i ca't seem to find one.

[Colonel Sanders]

Well, if I told you why I think you want to close this thread I'd probbably lose my membership here, close the thread.

Logan