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ironzombie99
03-24-2002, 10:27 AM
One computer in my house has a DSL modem on it. Im about to start to building a new computer for my room. What is the easiest and cheapest way to split the DSL connection to both computers.
Confused
03-24-2002, 10:44 AM
Router. Wired is cheapest. One router, NIC for second PC and cable for probably under $100.00. Wireless if you aren't comfortable pulling cable. Wireless router and one wireless NIC for second PC $230.00. CompUSA has SMC on sale today.
Chas
alexmacdonald
03-24-2002, 01:41 PM
Plug a cheap Hub into the DSL modem and run PPPoE software on the PC, XP has the software built in. Hub should be about $30, thats definately the cheapest way if your ISP allows 2 simultaneous connections, which most do.
morriswindgate
03-24-2002, 02:17 PM
I personally would stay away from a Hub, instead use a Switch or a Router as these have the ability to alot bandwidth to each computer and prevent data collisions
bailey
03-25-2002, 10:27 AM
a router with switching hub built in is best for the money.
Mr N8
03-25-2002, 05:17 PM
Definitely stay away from the standard hub. You will have way too many collisions, which will slow your connection some. Go with a swith or a router. A D-link 5 port switch and D-Link 10/100mbps NIC total $57 shipped at Newegg. You can probably pick up the cable you need at your local Radio Shack, or something similar.
n8
ironzombie99
03-25-2002, 05:48 PM
if i get a router, what else would i need? Would i need ethernet card installed in the computers?
Also what way do you connect dsl modems to the routers? Mine uses USB,.
morriswindgate
03-25-2002, 05:59 PM
You would need a NIC (Network Interface Card) in each of the computers and a Cat5 cable from the modem to the WAN (Wide Area Network) socket on the router, and the a cable for each computer to connect the router to the NICs.
Good 10/100 Lan Cards can be purchased for 10 to 15 bucks each.
Confused
03-25-2002, 06:07 PM
You will need a NIC in each PC. That is the ethernet interface. Get 10/100 cards, no use to spend a lot. I have a Acer I bought for $8.00 and another one (Cain't remember brand) I picked up for $10.00. Get a router such as the SMC 7004R Barricade, Linksys or Netgear. Those three are very popular with members here. I have the SMC.
Your DSL modem should also have a RJ45 connection that is for the LAN. Hook the router to it using the WAN port and connect your PC's to the LAN ports of the router using straight thru ethernet or patch cable.
Chas
ironzombie99
03-25-2002, 06:51 PM
it doesnt have a RJ45 connection
Furius92
03-25-2002, 07:57 PM
It may be connected to your PC through USB, but the modem HAS to have an RJ 45 port. If you had it installed for you by a company, they might have run the RJ 45 into a USB adapter, and then used that rather than installing a NIC for you. They did that for me... not sure if it's good or bad.
Besides, if it IS USB, you can get an adapter and go the other way... from USB to RJ 45 and do it like that. But that'll probably reduce speed.
There are USB-only DSL modems - and if that's what you have, try to swap it for an Ethernet model.
ironzombie99
03-26-2002, 06:51 AM
yea thats what i have, and i really cant switch it because of my budget right now, are there adapters like above, i couldnt find them on the net
Confused
03-26-2002, 07:26 AM
I don't know of any, but then again I've never looked. My original PC has WIN98 FE and it has made me wary of USB. I just had too many minor problems with USB on it. I will admit that this one with XP seems to be handling USB a lot better.
Failing to find a device to convert the modem to RJ45, look for a router that will take a USB connection from modem.
Chas
I don't think those exist - so just slap a NIC in each machine and use either a crossover cable or 2 straight cables and a hub/switch and use ICS or a 3rd party proxy to share the connection.
ironzombie99
03-26-2002, 08:07 PM
My DSL uses a RJ-11 connection to connect to the phone line, not a RJ-45, and i screwed?
ironzombie99
03-26-2002, 08:11 PM
my modem is a speed touch USB made by Alcatel that is goven by Bellsout fast access when you sign up
No, all DSL modems use RJ-11 to connect to the phone line - it's what is in the other end (the output to the PC) that we are talking about.
ironzombie99
03-27-2002, 06:48 AM
in that case, the only thing that goes to my computer is the USB cord.
Does anyone know of a hub,switch, router that does have a USB connection for a modem?
Confused
03-27-2002, 07:07 AM
As GLC said earlier that he didn't think they existed and I concur. Your modem relies on the USB port for power. http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/produsb.htm
Chas
ironzombie99
03-27-2002, 07:33 PM
is there a router, switch, or hub that connects to RJ-11?
ironzombie99
03-27-2002, 07:46 PM
So can i do this setup?
Modem into computer via the usb connection. Have a NIC card installed inboth computers. Use a crossover cable to connect the computer with the modem to the new computer. Will that work?
That is the last choice that i see other than buy a new modem which i will not do, because it uses a RJ-11 connection and everything else uses a RJ-45 which is what the networking devices use.
Confused
03-27-2002, 10:00 PM
First if you get a new modem, get one with RJ11 input (telco line) and RJ45 output (LAN). Most come with both RJ454 and USB out.
Anyway to use your existing modem, GLC offered two ways to make it work, and one is what you are asking about now. Keep in mind that several people have had problems with the setup you are proposing lately.
Chas
Blakhart
03-28-2002, 03:19 AM
You may try using ics on the fastest computer, and feeding the fast computer by an internal dsl modem. You will need two nics, one in each comp. Find proxy and fwall software to suit.
I dare say that ics with a fast, stable computer will beat the snot out of any stand alone dsl modem. I fed three computers on a ics connection and the shared comp never even knew the others where there!! And this was a lowly 850 Tbird. Outstanding results.
Just some ideas.
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