My network is slow

[hackercarlos]

Hi. I'm new to networking and I just made a network using 1ISA 10BT nic (Pentim 133 24MB of ram Win95B) , 1PCI 10BT nic (Celeron 300 128MB of ram Win98FE) and a 10BT hub.

I transfered 21 wav files (about 30MBs each) from the computer with the PCI NIC to the computer with the ISA NIC and it took forever. I also tried to do it with only one wav file (30MB) and it took about 2minutes to transfer. I then took out the ISA NIC out of the other computer thinking that the ISA slot caused the data transfer to be slow and I replaced it with a PCI NIC so both computers had in PCI nics. I tried to transfer the same wav file (30MB) and it took 1 minute.


What is wrong ?

Note: All of the networking equipment is made by Kingston. Hub: KNE-5TP/H
ISA card: KNE 20BT
PCI card: KNE 30BT

Was the wav file supposed to take 1-2 minutes to transfer or was it supposed to take 4-10 seconds ?


Thanks for any replies and sorry for making the post so long but I had to include all the details.



[This message has been edited by hackercarlos (edited 05-25-2000).]

[Omletteboy]

Are you sharing internet connection or just sharing files, if not you can use netbeui which is a very fast protocal instead of tcp/ip.

Also check your cat 5 cable, perhaps they're not up to par thus causing the slow down.

[hackercarlos]

Hi Omletteboy. I am just sharing files and I am using CAT 5 snag proof hi quality cable made by Belkin.

I know for sure that the cable is not the slow down. It is rated up to 100MB/s

[hackercarlos]

HI WJ. I have the drives from each computer mapped and I am using the IPX/SPX protocol on the NICS.

[WJWheels]

Hey Carlos. I'd go along with Fried-Egg Dude and add netbeui protocal on your nics in the network configuration.

Also, how are you transferring these files? Are you merely compying/moving using explorer, or are you mapped to the other folder/drive? It's much faster if you map to the folder.

[Omletteboy]

Hey hacker, get rid of IPX/SPX, it's for connection with novell netware. Then install netbeui.

[eltano1]

Hi Carlos, stay with the TCP/IP protocols and get yourself another PCI Nic card instead of the ISA. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif

[hackercarlos]

OK, I'll give it a try and get back to you later with the results. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif

[hackercarlos]

Hi eltano1. My first post in this new topic said that I had in the ISA NIC in one comp and a PCI nic in the other. It also said that I took out the ISA nic out of the one computer and replaced it with a PCI nic so both the computers have PCI nics. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif I guess you did not read the whole thing. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eltano1:
Hi Carlos, stay with the TCP/IP protocols and get yourself another PCI Nic card instead of the ISA. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[hackercarlos]

NetBeui did not give me any luck. Same transfer speeds. I all want is for the transfer speeds to be faster (like close to or 10MB/s ). I monitored the speed and my network is only currently doing 1 mb/s.

What do I need to do ?

[eltano1]

Sorry, you are right, I didn't read the whole thing. I have a LAN myself (4 pcs sharing ADSL) with PCI NIC cards thru a hub and I don't have that kind of problem, I'm using 3COM in 3 of them and the other one has a LinkSys and the hub is a Dlink, and the cables are all Belkin.For my protocols i have TCP/IP and the sharing is enable, with 2 firewalls in my server.I hope this can help you to campare my setup with yours. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Nutrocker]

Hi all

Aren't we getting our Mbps and MB mixed up here?

Mega bits per second
and
Mega Bytes !!

Two completely different things

1-2 minutes was about right http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif

With a 10Mbps network you will NEVER get a full 10Mbps speed http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/frown.gif it will be more like 6-8Mbps at best due to numerous reasons, one of which is packet collisions.

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[This message has been edited by Nutrocker (edited 05-28-2000).]

[hackercarlos]

Hi Nutrocker. All I get out of my network is 1MB/s. I never get 6MB or 8MB/s which I wish I could acheive.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nutrocker:
Hi all

Aren't we getting our Mbps and MB mixed up here?

Mega bits per second
and
Mega Bytes !!

Two completely different things

1-2 minutes was about right http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif

With a 10Mbps network you will NEVER get a full 10Mbps speed http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/frown.gif it will be more like 6-8Mbps at best due to numerous reasons, one of which is packet collisions.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Nutrocker]

Hi

Check this site for the calculation.

Remember we are talking transfering a 30MB (30Mega Byte) file ove a 10Mbps (10Mega Bit per second network.
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/aav24/filecalc.shtml

I make it around 60 seconds or so.


MegaByte
(1) When used to describe data storage, 1,048,576 (2 to the 20th power) bytes. Megabyte is frequently abbreviated as M or MB.

MegaByte
(2) When used to describe data transfer rates, as in MBps, it refers to one million bytes.

Megabit
(1) When used to describe data storage, 1,024 kilobits.

Megabit
(2) When used to described data transfer rates, it refers to one million bits. Networks are often measured in megabits per second, abbreviated as Mbps.

Notice the B or the b used to differ between bits and Bytes.

MORE INFO

megabits per second (Mbit/s) - Unit of measure for data transfer rates; two to the 20th power (1,048,576) bits per second.
megabyte (MB) - A unit of measure for memory or disk storage capacity; two to the 20th power (1,048,576) bytes

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Don

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[WJWheels]

H-C, I'm mixing ASI & PCI throughout the network and it makes no difference. The only other thing I can think of is make sure your PCI cards are in slots that support Bus Mastering.

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[Nutrocker]

Hi hackercarlos

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>All I get out of my network is 1MB/s. I never get 6MB or 8MB/s which I wish I could acheive<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HC 1MBps or thereabouts is the best you will EVER get from a 10Mbps network.

The network operates at 10Mbps (Mega bits per second NOT Mega Bytes)



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[bob]

What do I need to do ?

Get 100BT cards

[hackercarlos]

Thanks Nutrocker http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif You have all the info I wanted to know.

Thanks a lot http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif

[glc]

Even with 100bt cards, you need a 100bt hub, and more importantly, ISA 100bt cards are $150 each and are no faster than 10bt because of the ISA bus. Same thing with 100bt PCMCIA cards...the 16 bit ones run at about 7mbps so you need 32 bit cardbus to get speed.

[F525]

I don't think you can blame the problem on ISA equipment. I just ran a little test on my lan to see how long it would take to copy a file. I copied 26 MegaBYTE zip file across my lan in 37 seconds. The cable run to the destination machine is about 55feet. I have 3 machines on my lan, peer to peer, W95B, and all three use ISA 3Com 10Base T cards. Hub is also 3Com. The machines are a PII-400, P-200, and (get this!) a 486-33.

I have all three protocols installed; Netbeui, TCP/IP, and IPX/SPX and are bound to the 3com card.

I don't know the answer to your problem, but I can support your experience that changing to PCI would not make much difference. I'd have to agree that 2 minutes for 30 MB is too long. Best Regards. Dwight

[hackercarlos]

Thanks for the info Dwight A.K.A. F525. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif



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