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HAL9000
06-10-2000, 07:53 PM
PCI or ISA network adapters? If ISA, you probably need to run the DOS configuration so that the card settings match the settings that Windows has assigned.

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MeanyBeany
06-11-2000, 05:00 AM
I've been trying to get two computers networked through a crossover cable. The computers can see themselves in Network Neighborhood but they can't see each other. I've installed all of the appropriate protocols and I know these things can sort of communicate, because I goofed up and installed ICS on both machines, which led to both machines griping about identical IPs. Still, I couldn't get net diag to work, nor would ping recognize the new IP of the other machine. One thing I notice is that the activity diagnostic light on both network cards flickers almost constantly.

Can any of you guys help out any?

K A Hall
06-11-2000, 06:34 AM
Under the identification tab (network neighborhood) are both PC's in the same workgroup?

MeanyBeany
06-11-2000, 06:50 AM
Yes, I made sure to give both the same workgroup name.

MeanyBeany
06-11-2000, 08:29 AM
It's a PCI card.

glc
06-11-2000, 09:50 AM
Uninstall ICS and all networking components. Reinstall networking but do NOT reinstall ICS till the network is up and operating with NetBeui for filesharing. Then you can configure TCP/IP and reinstall ICS.

Move the network cards around to different PCI slots till they are not sharing IRQ if you still have problems. Make sure your crossover cable is not defective.

bob
06-11-2000, 07:17 PM
"I goofed up and installed ICS on both machines, which led to both machines griping about identical IPs"

They MUST have different Ip addresses.

What is IP address of each and subnet mask. If you are conserned about security change or use * on the #

USMale
06-11-2000, 09:02 PM
MeanyBeany
Try to uninstall ICS on the client from control panel and install ICS on the host again take the floppy as instructed to the client

ICS should only be installed on one system all the others are configuration automatically through the floppy disk
Make sure that TCP/IP is installed and configured to assign IP addresses automatically on each computer on the home network


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bob
06-11-2000, 09:06 PM
TY USMale



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renaldas
06-12-2000, 12:09 AM
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MeanyBeany
06-17-2000, 01:45 PM
I'd like to say thanks to all of you people for trying to help me out. I've managed to get the network to sort of work.

Now one computer's Network Neighborhood shows both systems, however, it won't access the shared resources on the other system. The other system shows nothing in its Network Neighborhood. I discovered that if one system is rebooted, the other system's Network Neighborhood lists both systems on the network. On the system that shows nothing in the Network Neighborhood, I can do a search for it and it will be found.

glc
06-17-2000, 07:51 PM
You must be running a protocol on both machines that supports NetBios. NetBeui should do this, if it doesn't work, try IPX and enable NetBios over IPX. Heck...put them both in, won't hurt.

MeanyBeany
06-18-2000, 05:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by glc:
You must be running a protocol on both machines that supports NetBios. NetBeui should do this, if it doesn't work, try IPX and enable NetBios over IPX. Heck...put them both in, won't hurt.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I am using NetBEUI on both. But I won't mind installing IPX on both. Thanks. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/smile.gif

eltano1
06-18-2000, 11:24 AM
Did you have your file and sharing settings on? If you dont you will not see the others pc folders. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif

MeanyBeany
06-18-2000, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eltano1:
Did you have your file and sharing settings on? If you dont you will not see the others pc folders. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I made extra certain both systems had their hard drives shared.

A couple of other questions, if you want to humor me. http://www.pcmech.com/ubb/wink.gif Do you enter anything for the Windows NT domain under Client for Microsoft Networks when the systems aren't attached to an NT server? Can the other computer obtain IP address automatically or must it be assigned?

glc
06-18-2000, 02:13 PM
No, do not enter anything in the NT domain, and leave the 'log into NT domain" box unchecked.

IP addresses have nothing to do with either Netbeui or IPX. When you install ICS, they will take care of themselves.

MeanyBeany
06-18-2000, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by glc:
No, do not enter anything in the NT domain, and leave the 'log into NT domain" box unchecked.

IP addresses have nothing to do with either Netbeui or IPX. When you install ICS, they will take care of themselves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks once more. Do you know if a peer-to-peer network requires the setup of a master and a slave computer?

glc
06-18-2000, 10:26 PM
No, that is only necessary to use Direct Cable Connection. Peer to peer networking (using network cards and Ethernet cables) means all computers are equal.