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embrelleur
04-28-2002, 09:44 PM
I know that when you overcloock your FSB you raise your PCI and AGP speed, but what about IDE, does it afect the way IDE channels work?
That bring me to my second question:
Recently I bought an IBM deskstar 60 GB and since a couple of days sometime (1 or 2 times a day) My PC makes a kind of ti-da sound that seems to come from the HD. When this happens, my comp would freeze for about half a second. What could it be?
I heard about problems with IBM hard drives could it be that?
BTW my drive is a IC35L060AVVA07 61.49 GB ATA/100 7200 RPM
120 GXP
Thanks for awnsering my questions
HAL9000
04-28-2002, 10:07 PM
Yes, overclocking can also affect the IDE. If things go too much out of spec, you can experience data corruption.
As for the sounds your drive is making, it can be one of two things;
1) A bad power connection or a sudden drop, then reconnect of power. This would cause the drive heads to quickly go to the park position, then back to active.
2) A warning sign of a faulty drive. Get the diagnostics program from IBM and check it. If it is OK, keep a close eye on it.
embrelleur
04-28-2002, 10:17 PM
It's more like a little beep than the sound of heads moving.
I tried SMART defender and it didn't find anything...
BTW excuse me for my bad english, I usualy speak french
And thanks for the reply HAL
Mr N8
04-29-2002, 11:31 AM
If you are concerned, I would back up your data, and contact your vendor or IBM about a replacement. That sound can indicate a pit in the hard drive. It could be there from a couple of things. If the computer was jolted while the heads were reading, it could have hit the disk. It could also just be a bad spot that came on the disk, and with 60GB to roam, the heads wouldn't be hitting that spot very often.
BTW...your english is far better than my French. Your English is also a lot better than most English speaking people who post here! I'm impressed.
Nate
embrelleur
04-29-2002, 11:49 AM
If I follow your idea, a surfance scandisk wich would mark this (those) sector as bad would maybe solve the problem. It's far less problems than return the Hard Drive and live without my comp for weeks...
Toaster
04-29-2002, 01:29 PM
Howdy folks,
Any time the FSB is raised, you alter all other bus rates (speeds). This includes:
PCI speed
AGP speed
Memory speed
ISA speed
IDE/Serial/Par port speeds and so on.
Some BIOSs will "split" the speeds in an attempt to keep these bus rates near nominal values but not all.
Some BIOSs will only "split" these bus speeds if a "divisable by 2 or 3" value is added.
All BIOSes seem to address this differently and use differing methods and reasons "when and why" a bus speed is altered.
IDE bus rates in excess of 37hmz ican be dangerous to data. Some permit higher values, some do not.
Whatever your PCI bus speed is, so will be your IDE ports in most cases.
IDE is very dependant on bus timing.
Common errors seen when the bus speed is too high are:
1. No drive detection or detection errors.
2. Sudden and irreversable data loss.
3. FAT16/32, NTFS table corruption.
4. Drive suddenly reports defective sectors.
5. Drive "drops ready" and stops working momentarily or randomly locks up.
6. Various and random "BSODs" each stating "error reading drive X "
The longer your device cables, the less tolarant the IDE bus will be.
embrelleur
04-29-2002, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the info, toaster. Now the question is could it be the 7 MHZ FSB overclocking that I've done that wad causing my problem?
You need to download and run the IBM Drive Fitness Test.
I don't think a 7 MHz increase in the FSB will make much difference on the PCI bus - thats only an extra 2 or 3 MHz which it should handle fine.
embrelleur
04-30-2002, 11:29 AM
Hi
I ran the IBM DFT, no errors. Maybe it's a power problem. I changed the connector I was using, plugging the possibly faulty to my CDROM wich won't be affected too much by power cutoffs. We'll see in a couple of days...
Thanks all for helping
Jenni
04-30-2002, 12:55 PM
I just sent you an email with a link to a recording I made of my Western Digital hard drive, because it sounds like yours is doing the same thing mine did. I ran WD's drive diagnostics and also got the "no errors" message. So I sent my recording to WD, and they said "we would be happy to assist you with the RMA process".
embrelleur
04-30-2002, 04:27 PM
Hopefully this is not that sound, its a blend between a "beep" and a "clang". Very strange, though.
That's why I asked you folks here if you have an idea of what can be causing that
embrelleur
05-01-2002, 09:42 PM
Tried switching power cables, no amelioration... I think I will send it back on warranty. But how will I explain that to my resseller by E-Mail...
Anyway thanks to you all folks
embrelleur
05-02-2002, 09:41 AM
After thinking more about it, I think it might be my MAXTOR 40 GB HD that is set as primary slave that emits this sound. Excuse me for forgeting to mention that other HD, I'll try unplugging this maxtor thing and see what will happen
If you have a Maxtor drive you can run MaxDiag on it.
embrelleur
05-12-2002, 10:25 PM
I finally got it, it was the plug of my Maxtor 40 Gigs, I unplugged them and plugged them back, and since this moment, all is working well
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