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SARGE
10-06-2002, 08:07 PM
In between so many mixed emotions, nothing like posting among friends. Anyhoo, to keep the mods and Dok happy, college football does include the use of technical items like computers and the various programs to satisfy the needs of so many involved in same. Computers are used to rate the teams by the wire services and certainly coaches use 'em to seize a weakness in the other team. That being said to satisfy the forum rules, may I offer in my ever so humble opinion, that nothing compares to a Texas-OU (OU stands for Oklahoma) weekend. Surely, depending on demographics, one considers Auburn-Alabama, Michigan-Michigan State, Tennessee-Florida, UCLA-USC, the list goes on, each merits its own recognition. But down south, where real football is played (check the rosters of the NFL), nothing beats a Texas-OU game. Everyone naturally guns for Texas, what with our bragging, etc. Having attended many rivalries in my time, including all the above - nothing compares. Having the misfortune of getting tickets on the "wrong" side of a Texas-OU game, and being threatened of ejection and bodily harm if my old lady continued rooting for the "wrong" team, I've seen first hand the seriousness of a 3 hour game. Fortunately, I've always been seated on the "right" side henceforth.
After all is said and done, 100 years from now it makes no difference. But in the meantime, you will be eternally blessed for rooting for the 'horns.
M. A. Dockter
10-06-2002, 08:59 PM
We'll see where real football is played when the Green Bay Packers from Wisconsin take on the Chicago Bears from the Midway Flatlands this Monday Night. :D Although the rosters are full of folks that got scholarships to play football in the south, you'll probably find that a good portion of them went to High School in other areas of the country. I don't doubt the fans in the south are passionate about their football, but take a look at the NFL. Most teams are in the "Old North", east of the Mississippi and North of the Kentucky-Tenn line. It just proves, at least to me, that players will play where-ever people will pay them to.
I also think Football was created to be played in freezing conditions; it's part of the game (like Bratwurst and Beer). Playing it in mild temps in just cheating IMHO.
Also, if you go to football game with someone rooting for the other side, you can let them know that next time they can buy their own tickets on the other side of the field...not like they need to sit next to you in the first place. :)
SARGE
10-06-2002, 09:09 PM
Dok, Favre is my kind of man. Good old boy (from the south, btw) who gets the job done. Not fancy but I'm afraid it's time for kicking back and enjoying his pick up truck and some cold ones. That said, there was a time when the Packers and Bears was THE rivalry, like the Cowboys and Redskins. I shall pull for the Pack. My bud used to say "the Pack is back" and I'd follow, "yeah, WAY back". Good luck and we'll be pulling for 'ya.
As for sitting in the wrong side of the stadium, my brother, who always gets me tickets, shall be forever indebted to me for his mistake. That was dang near violent, and the old lady wouldn't shut up, bless her heart. ;)
mairving
10-06-2002, 09:19 PM
It is too bad that rivalries change so much. I remember when I was a kid, I was a big University of Tennessee fan. My dad got tickets to a game in Jackson, MS against Ole Miss. Tennessee was No. 4 in the nation. Ole Miss wasn't even ranked and had an unknown QB named Archie Manning. Ole Miss beat Tennessee 38-0 and it was a long ride home that year. Then Tennessee had rivalries with Auburn, whom they had a hard time beating, then Alabama, then Florida. I actually find myself pulling for Ole Miss and Alabama occasionally, but never Florida.
The point is that rivalries tend to change. It used to be that OU and Nebraska was one of the biggest but that has seemed to wane a bit. It seemed also that Texas and Texas A&M used to be bigger than it is now. It seems that rivalries are only good if the teams are evenly matched.
Doc, I remember the days when Minnesota used to play outdoors in cold conditions. Bud Grant wouldn't even allow heaters on the sidelines. The Rams would come into town and play, huddle around their heaters, and get beat most of the time. It was a great home field advantage.
Also Sarge, it is good to see you back. Football does kind of breathe a little life into us every year. At least until November or so, for Texas fans.
SARGE
10-06-2002, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by mairving
Also Sarge, it is good to see you back. Football does kind of breathe a little life into us every year. At least until November or so, for Texas fans.
There are some small towns in Texas (yes we do have some things small) where their football is everything, usually on the high school level. Old geezers sit around the coffee shop, usually the only one in town, and cuss and discuss the team all year. It (football) is taken very seriously in Texas.
I do believe that the Bears-Packers rivalry is the oldest in pro football. Tomorrow night's game means more than usual this year - it's probably gonna define the division leader. This flatlander will enjoy watching the cheeseheads go down in defeat.
M. A. Dockter
10-06-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by glc
I do believe that the Bears-Packers rivalry is the oldest in pro football. Tomorrow night's game means more than usual this year - it's probably gonna define the division leader. This flatlander will enjoy watching the cheeseheads go down in defeat.
If I wanted smoke blown up my back-side, I'd be in my bathroom with a pack of cigarettes and a short length of garden hose.
Typical flatlander, all smoke, no fire. :)
Being that I know you don't smoke, I will leave it up to everyone's imagination what you are really doing in the outhouse with cigarettes and a hose...........:D
M. A. Dockter
10-06-2002, 10:01 PM
You forgot to mention the co-ed and the chocolate syrup. ;)
We'll see how much smoke you blow Tuesday morning George. Unlike Packer fans, you guys have a tendency to loose face when you loose. Packer fans...heck...we're used to loosing :)
SARGE
10-06-2002, 10:16 PM
Having been left out of the loop concerning the syrup, etc., I feel compelled to correct Dok in his assessment to used to losing. 3 Ws and 1 L thus far this year equates to another W in Illinois Monday night. My bud glc will forgive me, I'm sure. The syrup sounds intriguing and surely has a technical offering I'm sure. :)
Kubie
10-06-2002, 10:36 PM
Chocolate syrup, hose, coed, and cigarettes. Can't get more technical than that.:eek:
Carl
Floppyman
10-06-2002, 10:50 PM
Another fellow midwesterner that hopes the Bears will "smoke" past the Packers.:D
That's OK, Sarge - my favorite team is the Bears - my second favorite team is whoever is playing against the Cowboys - whoever is playing against the Packers is only my 3rd favorite team.
You know what has 37 legs and 6 teeth?
Section 24, row 3, seats 1-20 at Lambeau Field.
audiyoda
10-07-2002, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by glc
You know what has 37 legs and 6 teeth?
Section 24, row 3, seats 1-20 at Lambeau Field.
As someone who grewup a Lion's fan (when they get rid of Mullen I'll start cheering them on again) that is just great. Thanks GLC for finishing off my day is style.
-Craig
Blankman
10-07-2002, 01:10 AM
My bro-in-law is a Bears fan, of course I'm a Cheesehead. I of course dislike Chi fans but for some reason I hate Vikings fans even more. It may also be due to the fact Moss made the winning t-down to cause my home state's ball team to lose the national championship.
Sarge is right the OU-Texas game is like no other game. This isn't a rivalry like OU-Nebraska, which is a friendly contest between friends. OU-Texas is a war hence the name Red River Shootout. This year will be worse than normal with Texas and Oklahoma swapping the #2 and #3 poll positions back and forth.
The Longhorn - A&M rivalry is like wise still in full force. Tension between KState-Colorado-Nebraska is not showing any signs of slowing down it's only increasing.
College Football is alive and well. If anything it is taking away from the NFL. As a rule College Stadiums are bigger and much more likely to sell out. The top ten possibly twenty college teams generate more revenue than any NFL team. And no matter where they are ranked nobody generates as much as Notre Dame if memory serves me correctly.
TimPoet
10-07-2002, 03:32 AM
Well, it's a matter of necessity- gotta root for GB. On my Yahoo Fantasy Football, an Internet function, I have Favre as my QB and would like him to wrack up humungous points so I can completely obliterate my smak-talking manager who is already 20 points behind. :D :p
PMich
10-07-2002, 04:50 PM
All I know is I will be in Memorial Stadium for the Bears/Packers game tonight. Go Bears!!!
LawyerRon
10-07-2002, 11:31 PM
Hey SARGE,
In the Pac-10, there's only one; UCLA-USC. And it's always their last game of the season. My Bruins won this weekend BTW and USC got beat!!!!!
Oh well - the Bears forgot to show up tonight. We'll get back at ya on the frozen tundra in December.
M. A. Dockter
10-08-2002, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by glc
Oh well - the Bears forgot to show up tonight. We'll get back at ya on the frozen tundra in December.
You guys remember where that is, right? Just kidding g.
The Bears played a good game; they scored a lot of points, usually that many points makes a win, at least last year it did.
We'll see if vengence is the kick in the pants they need to kick it into high gear December 1st
He may be an old fart, but Favre still has it in him, can't deny that.
raftero
10-08-2002, 09:11 PM
i don't know about up north(anywhere north of the red river is north)but in texas every high school has a bitter rival in their district they just have to beat.by the way sarge have you noticed that since the snowbirds found texas they introduced a game they call hockey or something,kind of like tin can shinny we used to play.
SARGE
10-08-2002, 09:18 PM
Alot of old coots ( like Favre and glc )are like a fine wine - they get better with age. The young folks are so full of something and vinegar they don't stop to smell the roses and simply strut and yak about how they know everything. Even I was 25 when I figured my old man suddenly became smart and wasn't so dumb afterall. To this day the old coot can still whip us 3 boys arm wrestling. Same with Favre; he's not so athletic but knows how to do the job.
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