Ugh - Switching Things

[kittyfire]

We had a thread awhile back and I can't find it now but I'm getting ready to do this and need some assistance...

Two of my desktop computers are about to be swapped around. All I want to do is move the hard drive out of one and put it in the other and vice versa. Prolly will switch some ram around and the internal modem... piddly stuff. I'm worried about the BIOS and it actually booting up after I do this.

There was something about things to just delete in the device manager and you can boot up fine after going into the BIOS and configuring your hard drive... or something like that... Ring a bell with anyone?

::whimpers:: help

[ZANEY123]

I think this is what you are looking for.

ENUM TRICK (http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9254)

Zaney123:)

[scott_d]

wasnt it called the enum trick or something like that?

[Kubie]

Hi kittyfire,

Just use the Enum Key trick found in the Tips and Tricks forum.

Carl

[kittyfire]

::big hugs:: Thanks y'all! Cross your fingers and wish me luck. I'm tiptoeing through an area I don't like to go... hardware. Ugh!

[MrNasty567]

i have tried this before and I didnt have to do jack(not even that ENUM thinger)

[reboot]

At the risk of repeating myself...the "ENUM trick" is recommended by almost everyone on this bbs. Why? Because we've all been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
It seems that Windows XP is the most forgiving, but Win9x/ME are not, and can cause major loss of hair and greying in abundance if you don't do it. Your mileage may vary.

[needhelp]

Just for the record guys, would you have to do this ENUM trick if you were installing a new hard drive

[ZANEY123]

no the enum trick is just for moving HD's that already have a OS installed,,,also only pertains to 95/98 and me,,,,,

Zaney123

[kittyfire]

Update...

Been out with the flu the past few days so sorry I'm behind letting y'all know what happened.

The merging of my older hard drive with the more new hardware went well. Only issue remaining is there's integrated sound on that board (I know! I should have known this beforehand... bah@me). Anyway, there are no drivers for 98 first edition with that sound system.

The older hardware + more new hard drive went fine once I put in a new video card. I hate it when something goes out in the middle of a change... never sure what to blame and where to troubleshoot first. Logic prevailed, finally, and after trying two different monitors on the system with the same result there was just no way it could be anything but the video card. At least that's how I saw it in my happy kitty world.

So back to my new no sound issue... I have never upgraded an OS. Well... I have which is why I never do it now. Clean install is the only way to go in my opinion. I really really like running 98 FE and I loathe change to my system. I'm thinking it's going to be easier to just install a sound card that's 98 FE compatible than to upgrade the OS and risk it messing with my vitals.

Anyone done a 98 to XP upgrade?

[Cricket]

Originally posted by kittyfire
Anyone done a 98 to XP upgrade? I haven't tried it but I understand it's not really recommended...a lot of people end up with really messed systems when they upgrade to XP instead of doing a clean install.

:) Cricket

[reboot]

It works well...in most cases...
If you've got quality hardware, it's smooth.
If you've got a Compaq or EMachine, don't even think about it.
Worked perfectly on a PIII600/Asus, but screwed royally on an Athlon1600+/ECS...go figure.
All you can do is try it, but make sure you "Save system files" when prompted so you can go back to 98 if you need to.

[GaryRouth]

Hi feline conflagration (and hey, Cricket!)

Windows 98 is fairly friendly to sound cards & onboard sound. If you post which one you have, I'll bet we can find some drivers that work fine for you.

Just to make sure that somehow older drivers aren't still hanging around, try booting to Safe Mode, and removing everything under "sound, video, and game controllers" (in Device Manager - oh- you can leave the Voice driver if you have a voice modem), and also in the Add/Remove Programs applet in Control Panel, remove any sound software. Chances are its a CMedia chip or a Creative chip. You can find reference drivers at their websites, or from the website of your motherboard manufacturer. Here's the link to the download page for CMedia reference drivers http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_tech_01.htm (just click on the sound chipset you have and then on the operating system it's for) . . . the newer 8738 drivers work pretty well for onboard sound, if that happens to be the one you have.

Actually it's been my experience that Win95/98/98se are widely compatible with a large variety of sound cards, while WinME, Win2000, and WinXP are quite a bit pickier. Easy to explain for Win2000 and WinXP, since they have are a totally different code base - but WinME? -go figure. Once happy, it's a nice OS, but it's murder for upgrades - seems like half the time a new sound card is necessary to get it right. I remember the sound forums over at MSN and PC Magazine were just flooded with posts after WinMe came out.

Best of luck
. . . Gary

[p.s. . . . couldn't find a download for Creative onboard chips: not even listed at the main download site - they probably prefer that you use the driver from your motherboard's manufacturer's site]

[. . . and hi, reboot, I seem to be typing slower these days]

[kittyfire]

I don't have my service tag number with me, I'm at work, but looking at the Dell site, I believe this is the one... It says it's for 98 but when I tried to install the driver it was like, this isn't 98SE so forget it. And then it disappears. : /

You are searching for:

Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio

Release Title: Audio: Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio, Driver, Multi OS, Multi Language, Multi System, v. 5.12.01.3508, A19
Release Date: 7/12/2002
Description: Sustaining release for ICH 1 and ICH 2 systems with ADI.

[GaryRouth]

If you still have the Dell disks, you can extract the driver from the Drivers menu & install it that way. The one on the disk is a sure-fire match for your system (if that's the same OS that it came with).

If you know your motherboard make/model you can try their website. Or try Dell's again. Should be a workable one on there somewhere.

Best of luck
. . . Gary

[kittyfire]

No, this system came with ME which I just absolutely under no circumstances will use. No offense to anyone...

This is going to sound silly but my biggest fear is if I upgrade the OS, it'll somehow mess up my EQ configuration and God only knows where those CDs are... they're in my room I'm sure but um... where and what condition?

::blushes::

[GaryRouth]

Hi again

Took a peek at the largely unreadable and nearly unusable Windows Hardware Compatibility list, just to see if a Win98 driver was included on the Win98 cd - but didn't see one. But that doesn't mean much, since things are listed in the strangest way possible on that crazy list.

If you can't find a Win98 driver on the Dell site that works well enough, I think you next best bet is to see what make/model of motherboard you have. I don't think Dell makes their own, but subcontracts such parts from major manufacturers. If you can find anything about the motherboard in your system paperwork, or online manuals, or simply from looking at the model # silk-screened on the circuit board somewhere (often by the PCI slots), then search the mainboard maker's website for an audio driver.

[and, actually, I confess I'm ignorant as to what your "EQ configuration" is: my friend the recording engineer would equate that with sound values in different ranges - so I suspect you're talking about something I'm probably too old & boring to know about :) ]

Best of luck, & Happy Holidays
. . . Gary