new card, old question

[Briab Guy]

I have a P111 800, plenty of memory, and want to upgrade my vid card from a VooDoo5AGP, to one of the G forces.
I did this once before but forgot all the research I did.
Ti4200? Around how much$ for an abit? or was it a 400? see, I dont remember! I was trying to stay in the 150 -200 range.
Does anyone have a better idea short of building a new PC, maybe a different card?
Thanks, I appreciate the help
Brian

[Byte 2.0]

for prices might want to check www.pricewatch.com

good place I know to buy from is www.newegg.com

[glc]

A Ti4200/4400/4600 is a good choice for a gaming machine - a better card for a general purpose machine would be a Radeon 8500/9100 or a 9500 if that will fit in under your budget.

[Briab Guy]

tHANKS,
I just was not to sure about the radon card. But if you believe in it glc, I will take your word for it.
I hate to say good bye to my VooDoo, but there are just to many games around that it will not work with any more. No matter how much tweaking I do. They (3dfx) went out of business almost right after I bought the card. Just my luck!
Thanks again
Brian

[largosama]

whats a radeon 9100?

[Nuclear Krusader]

The Radeon 9100 is the old 8500 with a new name. A marketing trick to get rid of outdated hardware.

[glc]

Its not a marketing trick - it's to position it above the 9000, which it outperforms, to eliminate confusion.

[Nuclear Krusader]

:o

I stand corrected then.

[glc]

ATI has decided not to play the MX game any more - and for that I salute them.

[ILLPHIL]

hey what kind of system is 9700 pro good for?, i just bought one and just wanna know what i is for, FYI my computer is gonna be use forr all around usage.

[Briab Guy]

OK, what is the MX game? I would rather "not" buy a gforce card, and what ever you are refering to sounds like a plus for radeon, and a minus for Nvda. I am just curious.

[glc]

Well, Nvidia has a GF4 MX and a GF4 Ti. The MX is actually just an "improved" GF2, and is outperformed by a regular GF3.

[largosama]

Yep, just like the Radeon 9000 vs the 8500. I really wanted the 8500 though, and i got stuck with a 9000 cuz they don't manufacture them[edit](8500) anymore...

[Nuclear Krusader]

Illphil, the Radeon 9700Pro is intended for heavy gaming.

You know, if a card makes games fly, it will make almost everything else fly, as games are the most demanding apps a home/office PC can run.

[glc]

largo: Thats exactly why ATI renumbered the 8500 to 9100, they are still making them.

[Briab Guy]

Well, it looks like a ATI OEM RADEON 9500 128MB DDR DVI 8X AGP, for 156$, which falls into my area. Thanks for the help.
A couple more Q's though, I see a few that mention SAPPHIRE ATLANTIS
either togeather or seperate. I also saw a referenece to them in one of the posts. Does it make a big diff?
And, is any one looking for a deal on a VooDoo5.5? I only paid 300 for it and will let it go for, lets say a good dinner? That hurts!
thanks again

[glc]

Sapphire is one of the OEM's making ATI cards, and they are equal quality to cards made by ATI themselves. Another good ATI OEM is Powercolor.

I think the GF4 Ti series is an excellent gaming card, but I would get the 9500 over it personally. ATI has a winner in the 9500. It's Universal AGP so as long as your motherboard supports AGP 2X or better, it will work - the card can run at 3.3, 1.5, or 0.8 volts.

[Briab Guy]

OK, I am leaning towards the ATI 9500 128MB, but here is the killer-- I looked up the specs and it wants a 350 power supply, Of course it does, I have a 300 W power supply. Do you think I can squeak by with a 300?
I also like the fact that the ATI has Dir X 9 compatability. Where the GFTi 4200 didnt say it did.
I also could not find if I would need a 350 W power supply for the GF. Do you happen to know if the Ti4200 128MB needs a 350 power supply?
Thanks for filling me in on Powercolor, I saw a lot of their name and some others, and one starts to wonder if all these are on the up-an-up.

[glc]

300 should be fine as long as it's a decent brand. The Ti's need 300 according to specs but I put a Ti4400 into a Dell with a 200 and it worked fine.

[Briab Guy]

thanks again, and that sums it up, i will go with the ATI 9500 128MB.
I appreciate all the help.
B

[Bushtree]

you can get a PNY Geforce4 Ti4200 64mb and 8x AGP for a little under $120 price has really droped recently.

[largosama]

If you need more power, there's always the extra 4 pin connector thingy in most PSU's