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MLW
05-14-2003, 01:09 PM
We have a drive that had NTFS partition ... We deleted the partition ... and now we can format our hard drive

MLW
05-14-2003, 01:23 PM
i tried to creat a dos partion and it say not enogh room and it is a 6 gig hdd

i have know clue what to do, and i really would like some help,PLEASE!

reboot
05-14-2003, 01:29 PM
Welcome to PCMech.
First you need a good startup diskette that contains fdisk.
At the A:\ prompt, type: fdisk
Hit Enter at the first prompt.
You then want option 3, remove stuff, then 4 remove non-dos partition. ESC
Then option 3 again, and 3 again. ESC
Then option 3 again, then 2. ESC
Then option 3 again, then 1. ESC
Restart to the boot floppy again.
Hit Enter for large disk support.
Then option 1, and YES/Enter to all the prompts.

Parangles
05-14-2003, 01:31 PM
http://www.bootdisk.com/txtfiles/hdd.txt

MLW
05-14-2003, 01:46 PM
i still get the same thing no space to creat dos partition

it also keeps telling me the format is not supported on drive c:

homer15
05-14-2003, 01:55 PM
that makes me think that you may not have actually deleted the partition.

reboot
05-14-2003, 02:04 PM
Yup. You need to remove all partitions, including all non-dos ones, then recreate at least one, and make it active.
THEN you'll be able to format.

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:19 PM
i have removed all the partions... and tried to create a partition and says insufficient drive space....

homer15
05-14-2003, 02:20 PM
when you view partition information in fdisk, it shows absolutley no information?

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:26 PM
no info at all, but when you go to c and type dir it has files there

homer15
05-14-2003, 02:28 PM
does your system have two drives? if so, then in the main menu of fdisk, you'll have to switch to the other drive. it's option 5.

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:29 PM
no just a singal hdd

homer15
05-14-2003, 02:30 PM
ok, something isn't jiving here. what partition program are you using?

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:34 PM
it was ntfs and i am tyring to put win 98, really not sure

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:36 PM
now it tells me that disk write protect

homer15
05-14-2003, 02:36 PM
but are you using fdisk? or partition magic? or some other partition program? i was reading over the thread, and nobody actually asked what you're using, we all just assumed fdisk.

edit:

and i forgot to welcome you. welcome to the forums. :)

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:37 PM
it is fdisk

MLW
05-14-2003, 02:47 PM
i want to thank you all for the help you been, but it still isnt working, hmmm, i have no clue anymore

reboot
05-14-2003, 03:01 PM
If you still see files when you do a DIR, then you are NOT using fdisk correctly, or are NOT restarting when you should.
Go to the manufacturer's website (who made your hard drive), and download their utilities to zero fill (low level format) the drive.
Run it.
Once that's done, you'll be able to run fdisk again, and create a primary active partition.

MLW
05-14-2003, 03:55 PM
ok i keep get the same thing again, it keeps saying it cant load BDOS kernal

MLW
05-14-2003, 03:57 PM
i get that message when i use the Maxtor Disk tools

reboot
05-14-2003, 04:30 PM
You need to make the bootdisk from what you downloaded, and start the computer with that disk in the drive.

morriswindgate
05-15-2003, 12:30 AM
Get a Zero Fill program start the computer from a 98 bootdisk and run the Zero fill program to get rid of everything on the drive. Then re-partition/format the drive.

http://www.oshvn.net/en/software/zero_fill_utility_version.htm

glc
05-15-2003, 08:53 AM
If there are no recognizable partitions on the drive, when you boot with a 98 startup disk, the ramdrive is drive C, thats why you are seeing files. I'd bet that the NTFS partition is not gone, you need to zero fill or use Delpart.

http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm

MLW
05-15-2003, 10:58 AM
i did zero it out but i when i go to fdisk is says theres no hd to be found and its all hooked up. wait one min i need to set the Bios..DUH!

i will let you all know whats up, again thank all of you for your help

reboot
05-15-2003, 11:23 AM
Heh...get the BIOS setup for the drive, and it will fdisk.
Don't forget to make the first partition active.

mike breck
05-15-2003, 11:52 AM
Here's a little guide to Partitioning and Formatting for ya

http://www.muisejt.com/fdisk/fdisk.html

MLW
05-15-2003, 10:40 PM
cool i havent got to it yet today thanks for the info....

kissfan
05-16-2003, 09:06 AM
A bit late with this I know, but check in the BIOS to make sure that Anti-Virus protection is not enabled.

just a thought.

AlwaysUp
05-16-2003, 10:05 AM
GLC, is correct with his suggestion of using delpart.exe which was a utility in the Resource kit that came with the early version of NT. It deletes NT partitions that fdisk which served earlier OS's quite well but has problems deleting NTFS. There is a MS Knowledgebase article to this effect, but as I am at work I don't have the page link to send ya.
Link originally posted by GLC, to me in another thread.
http://www.russelltexas.com/delpart.htm

MLW
05-16-2003, 04:36 PM
yell i have called maxtor and they said they where going to send me a new drive... Thank you all very much you all were much help