First time, no real exp, just set up, and copied/pasted pls help

[phat]

Okay guys, I am back, and have just decided to go ahead and get a new comp, but I want to build it myself to save money.
Hoping you guys will be able to help me. Tell me what is missing, do I need any extra fans, or anythign like? Is it all compatible, and all that fun stuff, and would it be a good computer. Keep in mind that I already have a good monitor, and a geforce 4 ti4400.
Without further ado, here it is. (copied and pasted, sorry for the length)

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)

ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W P4 Power Supply ATX12V Retail
Specifications:
Case type: SOHO File Server
Case Color: Antec Metalic Gray
Case Dimensions: 20.6" x 8.1" x 18.6" (H/W/D)
Drive bays: 10
Front accesible 4x 5.25, 2x 3.5" Internal 4x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 3 Short 4 Full Length
2 Rear Standard Fans 1 Side fan
Washable Air Filter in front more info>
N82E16811129115 $117.99
$117.99

CD/DVD ROM Drives

ASUS CD-S520 52X CD-ROM DRIVE - RETAIL BOX
The next-generation DDSS II (Double Dynamic Suspension System II)anti-vibration.
Specifications:
Sustained Transfer Rate 52X max CAV (3300 ~ 7800k bytes/sec.(Mode 1))
PIO mode 4 (16.6M bytes/s max.)
Ultra DMA/33 mode (33.3M bytes/s max.)
Buffer: 128K bytes
Interface Standard Enhanced IDE (ATAPI) bus interface.
Audio play and skip buttons are on the front of the unit. more info>
N82E16827134003 $16.99
$16.99

Floppy Drives

SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44 MB Connector 34 Pin Standard Floppy
Works With All Standard 1.44MB & 72OKB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes are compatible with all industry standard 1.44MB and 72OKB 3.5 floppy diskettes.
Easy to Install! Just Plug & Play! * For IBM5 & 100% Compatible Computers .
1 Year Warranty more info>
N82E16821103203 $8.50
$8.50

Hard Drives

Samsumg 80GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model# SP0802N - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Size: 80 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Seek time: 8.9ms
RPM:7200
Buffer: 2MB
OEM(Drive alone) 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty more info>
N82E16822152010 $77.00
$77.00

Keyboards

**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Microsoft 114 keys (10 internet Hot Keys) Internet Keyboard PS/2 - BLACK - OEM One-touch access to the Internet and more. *Must be Purchased with hardware!* Built-in Palm Rest, not detachable. more info>
N82E16823109110 $20.00
$20.00

Memory (System Memory)

GEIL DDR RAM 512MB PC-3200 Value 400MHz Ultra- CAS 2.5, 2T CommandGL5123200B Value. DDR400, CAS 2.5, 184 Pin Dimm, 6 Layer PCB, Aluminum Heat Spreader, bulk pkg - Lifetime Warranty. more info>
N82E16820144305 $87.00
$87.00

Motherboards - Intel

ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4C800-E DELUXE Retail
Specifications:
Supported CPU:P478 Pentium 4 / Celeron
Chipset: Canterwood 875P + ICH5R
FSB:800/533/400 MHz
RAM:2 Channel (dual channel) DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
IDE:Dual Ultra DMA ATA100/66 up to 4 Devices
RAID: Dual Channel 133/100/66/33 up to 4 Devices & SATA
Slots:1x AGP (8X) 5x PCI
Ports:2xPS2, 1xCOM,1xLPT,1x Audio, 1xLAN,2x IEEE, 8xUSB20
Onboard Audio:AD 1985 6 Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:Intel CSA Gigabit LAN 1000/100
Onboard SATA: Dual Channel Serial ATA up to 150MBs
Onboard Firewire: 2 1394 Firewire ports
built-in Intel PAT (Intel Performance Acceleration Technology) It helps to boost performance by 3~5%. more info>
N82E16813131464 $190.99
$190.99

Mouse

Microsoft BLUE Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer for Bluetooth - RETAIL
Key Features:
Bluetooth Technology (provides a wireless range of up to 30 feet)
Specifications:
5 Buttons, plus Accelerated Scroll Wheel.
Wireless Freedom
Optical Technology
Power Saving Features
Ergonomic Design
Enhanced Grip
Faster Wheel Scrolling
Forward & Back Buttons
Customizable Buttons
USB Connectivity more info>
N82E16826105129 $78.00
$78.00

Processors

Intel Pentium 4 / 3.0CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 3.0GHz
Type: Pentium 4 Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 800 Mhz
Socket: 478
Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
3-year MFG. Warranty- more info>
N82E16819116156 $393.00
$393.00

Sound Card

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - RETAIL
DVD-Audio: The only PC solution to enable the Advanced Resolution era of 24-bit music fidelity w/192kHz in stereo and 96kHz in 5.1
106dB SNR: The best Sound Blaster clarity ever, rivaling home-theater audio quality for music, games, & movies
6.1 surround sound: Experience superior multi-channel audio from MP3s, CDs, 3D games and Dolby Digital EX movies with a rear center speaker more info>
N82E16829102154 $112.00
$112.00


Subtotal » $1,101.47

Thanks for your help in advance,
Phat

[Alaron]

Looks pretty good, just a couple suggestions.

Change the hard drive to a Western Digital "Special Edition" with an 8meg buffer.

No CDRW drive?

Get 2, 256meg sticks of that ram to utilize the Dual Channel feature on the motherboard. It will give you better performance.

You can save some money using the Asus P4P800 Deluxe motherboard. It is an excellent P4 motherboard.

Everything else looks great, should be a speed demon. :)

[Force Flow]

The one thing that really sticks out is that wireless mouse. You can get a standard USB laser mouse for less than $30. I recommend a logitech ;)

What are you going to be using the system for? If it's not sound intensive, you could probably use a Sound Blaster Live! card. That would save you a few bucks too. ;)

[phat]

Ooooh a P4P, or whatever, will definatly look into that. As well as add a cdwr drive.

EDIT: Oh, and the hard drive, will look into that as well.

The mouse is there because I already have far to many wires laying around, its blue, and I want to be able to set up those extra button on the mouse to do whatever I want them to using smart mouse or whatver.

Its mainly going to be a gaming pc, but I will be using it to listen to all my music, and I dont really no anything about good sound cards.

Also, what about extra fans, that is what I am worried about, will need any? Would it be a good idea to some just in case?

Thanks for the quick replys and help guys.
Phat

[Alaron]

That Antec Case comes with 3 fans already installed, which is plenty. Intel systems run very cool, you won't need anymore. :)

[Force Flow]

From what I've heard, wireless mice aren't too favorable among gamers.

What kind of speakers are you using?

The SB Live! 5.1 card I got cost me $30. ;)

[phat]

okay changed my motherboard to this:
Asus Motherboard for Intel Processors Model P4P8X Retail
Specifications:
Supported CPU:P478 Pentium 4 / Celeron
Chipset: Canterwood 865P + ICH5
FSB:800/533/400 MHz
RAM:2 Channel DDR333/266 Support Max 4GB
IDE:Dual Ultra DMA ATA100/66 up to 4 Devices
Slots:1x AGP (8X) 5x PCI
Ports:2xPS2, 1xCOM,1xLPT,1x Audio, 1xLAN, 8xUSB20
Onboard Audio:AD 1985 6 Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:3COM Gigabit LAN 1000/100/10 802.11b
Onboard SATA: Dual Channel Serial ATA up to 150MBs

Changed my ram to two of these:
GEIL 256MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR RAM, 6 Layer Ultra Low Noise Shielded PCB, 32x8 Low Density/Unbuffered, Model# GE2563200
Specifications:
Type: 184-pin DDR Memory
Capacity: 256MB
Speed: PC-3200(400MHz)
w/ Heat Spreader
CAS 2.5 6-3-3 2T

Added this:
►Back to School Special
ASUS CRW-5224A 52X24X52 CDRW CD-RW Drive Internal IDE FlextraLink-Retail
Specifications:
CD-R (Write) CAV: 52x, 48X, 40X, 32X, 24X, 20X, 16X, 12X, 8X, 4X
CD-RW (Rewrite) P-CAV: 24X, 16X, 12X, 10X, 8X, 4X, 2X
CD (Read) CAV: 52X Max. 7800 KB/sec
Random Access Time: 100ms @ 1/3 Stroke
Interface: EIDE ATA
Buffer:2MB
Retail box (comes with Software and cables, see pic)

My speakers are Altec Lansing, 90watt, 6 speaker set. Thats all I know about them....they pump out a lot bass.
Price is now at: 1089, actually went down, that motherboard save me a ****load of money wow!

Phat

[Alaron]

Looks good, except for that motherboard. It is the budget version of the P4P800, and it does not support that ram. Change the board to the $121.99 board here: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=P4P800+Retail It will support the DDR 400 ram and be a great combination. :)

[malek]

Why not get this processor instead:

Intel Pentium 4 / 2.53GHz Northwood 512K Socket 478 Processor 533MHz Processor Bus
Specifications:
CPU: 2.53 GHz
Type: Pentium 4 Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 533 Mhz
Socket: 478 Retail (Box with Heatsink and fan), 3-year MFG. Warranty

This will save you $200!!! Plus you won't notice any difference (at least not $200 worth)

[phat]

Here it is now after revisions and whatnot.

ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W P4 Power Supply ATX12V Retail
Specifications:
Case type: SOHO File Server
Case Color: Antec Metalic Gray
Case Dimensions: 20.6" x 8.1" x 18.6" (H/W/D)
Drive bays: 10
Front accesible 4x 5.25, 2x 3.5" Internal 4x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 3 Short 4 Full Length
2 Rear Standard Fans 1 Side fan
Washable Air Filter in front more info-> N82E16811129115 $117.99 $117.99


ASUS Micro ATX Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Processors, 800Mhz FSB Model# P4P800-VM Retail
Specifications:
Supported CPU:P478 Pentium 4 / Celeron
Intel Hyper-Threading Technology ready
Chipset: Springdale 865G + ICH5R
FSB:800/533/400 MHz
RAM:2 Channel DDR400/333/266 Support Max 4GB
IDE:Dual Ultra DMA ATA100/66 up to 4 Devices
Slots:1x AGP (8X) 3x PCI
Ports:2xPS2,1xVGA 1xCOM,1xLPT,1x Audio, 1xLAN,4xUSB20
Onboard Audio:AD 1980 6 Channel Codec
Onboard LAN:Intel PHY LAN 100/10 802.11b
Onboard SATA: Dual Channel Serial ATA up to 150MBs more info-> N82E16813131460 $110.99 $110.99


Intel Pentium 4 / 3.0CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 3.0GHz
Type: Pentium 4 Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 800 Mhz
Socket: 478
Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
3-year MFG. Warranty- more info-> N82E16819116156 $393.00 $393.00


GEIL 256MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR RAM, 6 Layer Ultra Low Noise Shielded PCB, 32x8 Low Density/Unbuffered, Model# GE2563200
Specifications:
Type: 184-pin DDR Memory
Capacity: 256MB
Speed: PC-3200(400MHz)
w/ Heat Spreader
CAS 2.5 6-3-3 2T
Lifetime Warranty more info-> N82E16820144306 $42.00 $84.00



SAMSUNG 1.44MB BLACK FLOPPY DRIVE Model# SFD321B/LBL - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44 MB Connector 34 Pin Standard Floppy
Works With All Standard 1.44MB & 72OKB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes are compatible with all industry standard 1.44MB and 72OKB 3.5 floppy diskettes.
Easy to Install! Just Plug & Play! * For IBM5 & 100% Compatible Computers .
1 Year Warranty more info-> N82E16821103203 $8.50 $8.50


Western Digital 120GB SATA WD1200JD 7,200 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM
Specifications:
Size: 120 Gigabytes
Interface: Serial ATA
RPM: 7200
Data Transfer: 150MB/sec Max
Cache:8MB
OEM(Drive alone) 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty: more info-> N82E16822144151 $123.00 $123.00


Microsoft 114 keys (10 internet Hot Keys) Internet Keyboard PS/2 - BLACK - OEM One-touch access to the Internet and more. *Must be Purchased with hardware!* Built-in Palm Rest, not detachable. more info-> N82E16823109110 $20.00 $20.00


Microsoft BLUE Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer for Bluetooth - RETAIL
Key Features:
Bluetooth Technology (provides a wireless range of up to 30 feet)
Specifications:
5 Buttons, plus Accelerated Scroll Wheel.
Wireless Freedom
Optical Technology
Power Saving Features
Ergonomic Design
Enhanced Grip
Faster Wheel Scrolling
Forward & Back Buttons
Customizable Buttons
USB Connectivity more info-> N82E16826105129 $78.00 $78.00



ASUS CRW-5224A 52X24X52 CDRW CD-RW Drive Internal IDE FlextraLink-Retail
Specifications:
CD-R (Write) CAV: 52x, 48X, 40X, 32X, 24X, 20X, 16X, 12X, 8X, 4X
CD-RW (Rewrite) P-CAV: 24X, 16X, 12X, 10X, 8X, 4X, 2X
CD (Read) CAV: 52X Max. 7800 KB/sec
Random Access Time: 100ms @ 1/3 Stroke
Interface: EIDE ATA
Buffer:2MB
Retail box (comes with Software and cables, see pic) more info-> N82E16827135007 $35.99 $35.99


Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - RETAIL
DVD-Audio: The only PC solution to enable the Advanced Resolution era of 24-bit music fidelity w/192kHz in stereo and 96kHz in 5.1
106dB SNR: The best Sound Blaster clarity ever, rivaling home-theater audio quality for music, games, & movies
6.1 surround sound: Experience superior multi-channel audio from MP3s, CDs, 3D games and Dolby Digital EX movies with a rear center speaker more info-> N82E16829102154 $112.00 $112.00




Subtotal » $1,083.47

Hows it look?

Once again I want to say thanks to all the people who have helped and given me tips, so THANKS!
Phat

[Alaron]

The motherboard you have listed is the MicroATX form factor, and its the VM model. MicroATX is a smaller sized board without as many pci slots. That board also has onboard video, which you do not need, since you have a Geforce 4 already. Pick up the P4P800 Retail at the link I posted above. It runs for $121.99. It will be full sized and it wont have onboard video that you dont need. It will be a great build! :)

[Force Flow]

If you really want to save a small bundle, try going for a P4 2.4C HT CPU ($169 on newegg.com), or a P4 2.8C HT CPU listed for $267. ;)

[Spartan]

Looks good to me........BUT.........am I just missing it or do you have a video card picked out? I have the ATI 9800 Pro and love it (but it is around 400.00).

-Spartan

[StickEGreenleaf]

I'm gonna agree with forceflow, if you want to save some money, go with a 2.4c. You could easily overclock it to 3.0 and save your self $300. All my friends that have o'ced there 2.4's have no probs, and you won't be able to notice a difference between the two. The question is are you willing to overclock? That is what i plan on doing.

I'm not trying to tell you to buy anything, but if were you i would buy a DVD drive. Maybe not a DVDR, but you might find yourself wanting to watch a dvd of somesort on you comp.

Other than that it looks like a beast. Good luck

[phat]

Okay, changed my motherboard to the 121.99 one, or how ever much it was.

I have a geforce 4 ti4400 in my old comp which I will be putting in the new, thanks though.

A DVD drive would be a excellent idea=P Thanks, must of overlooked that one hehe.

I have no idea how to overclock, and I might look into in the future, when its need. I am assuming I can overclock the processor that I am getting, but I wont want to mess with that until it absolutly needed. Money is not really a factor either, besides getting the biggest bang for the buck.


Thanks,
Phat.

[avx]

Yes, the processor your getting can be overclocked.

Being that your getting a pretty decent high end machine, you are getting a pretty good bang for buck deal...That rig will take you a good long way...

You might want to upgrade the VidCard in about 6 or 7 months, but other than that, its a grea rig, good luck with it