new hard drive

[redvette]

Hi Gang

Question.......I have a PC100--Pent3--550MHZ--13GB hard drive--memory 512MB--IE 6.0--98SE

Now would going to a 120GB hard drive work out. Should I get a controller card? Or operate just the way it is with out a controller card?

If I have a PC100 could I use a 120Gb hard drive that is a ATA100/133, with the controller card I would have to purchase separately? I guess to simplify this can you use a ATA100/133GB hard drive in a PC100 computer? Is there any associated problems this way, or is this a normal way to go, more or less?

Take care..........Gunny

[mc2phat]

Hello,

the 120 drive will work, as long as your BIOS recognizes it. Please post your motherboard model, I'll go and see what BIOS revision recognizes that size drive and get back with you. Or Cricket will. :D

Oh, PC100 is the speed at which your memory runs. You can use any harddrive your BIOS will recognize. The drive hooked to a controller card will work regardless of what BIOS revision you have.

Peace

[imbest123]

PC100 = ram operating at 100Mhz. This will not affect your hard drive at all. you can add any ATA hd you want.

[Confused]

It will depend on whether or not your BIOS will see it. Older boards will not be able to handle 120G. If it doesn't you can get a PCI controller card fairle cheap if you have any open slots.
Chas

[redvette]

Hi

Imbest--your comment does that mean if it is labled ATA100/133 too?

MC2phat----- Here is the Mod. # M741LMRT It was one of those generics, buy the case with the motherboard all ready installed. PC100systemboard. Slot 1/socket370. That is all I can find on it.

Confused----I can buy one for $10. And yes I have an open slot.

Thanks and take care.......Gunny......:D

[glc]

You will need the card, that's a PC Chips motherboard and I can't find a bios that will support over 32gb. The board has a SiS chipset, which PC Chips brands as "Xcel 2000" and it runs at a 100 FSB, hence the PC100 designation.

[SARGE]

He could partition the heck out of the hd for recognition, but I'd get a card.

[redvette]

Hi Sarge and GLC

Well I guess we can all agree on that I should use the card. I can get a Maxtor 120gb and a card for $90.

I sure appreciate all the help again and again. I know you all are going to get tired of hearing me say that, but I was taught to appreciate the help that some ones gives you. And it has never failed that when I come to this forum for help, that is exactly what I get, and then some. I am glad that the people on this forum are not the kind that don't want to share their knowledge. What good is knowledge any way, if it cannot be shared. We cant all be smart, what a dull world that would be. :D

Sarge--that saying you have after your name, just cracked me up. It is very funny, and a lot of meaning in a simple phrase. I wish I would have thought that one up. I will have to think of one, and hope it is that good.

Take care..........Gunny............:D

[SARGE]

Good luck and enjoy. ;)

[redvette]

Hi Gang

Just thought of some thing. When you buy a boxed hard drive, it comes with a installation kit. I am buying an OEM with a controller card. It comes, of course, without any thing.

Will I be needing any drivers or should I do the Fdisk thing before I can put an OS on it?

What is the difference between a boxed HD one that comes with the floppy and all the cables, as compared to one that is OEM without the floppy or any thing?

I have been told by people you don't need anything beside the HD, just put it in and start using it.

Take care...........Gunny..............:confused:

[SARGE]

Originally posted by redvette

I have been told by people you don't need anything beside the HD, just put it in and start using it.



That's right. The floppy may have an overlay, some info on jumpering and some diagnostic software. That info can be gotten easily off the Net.

[glc]

Installation of the OS on a new drive depends on what OS. 98SE will require a system disk with the updated FDISK patch to partition and format the drive, then the OS can be installed from the CD.

[redvette]

Hi

Thanks GLC and Sarge.......Ok great on that, just a little some thing that seems to be happening. One of the reasons I am replacing the hard drive is to get a bigger one naturally, and another reason is to see is this will correct some thing. Process of elimination I guess you would call this.

Some times when I start the computer up, the boot up screen will be very nervous, jittery, and every thing after wards every thing seems ok. Mind you it does not do this all the time. Some times the screen is very stable. When it starts out jittery even though it operates ok, it seems jerky, and hesitant on just about everything. But when it starts up normal every thing seems to run smoother. I was thinking either Video card, or hard drive. It has a small Seagate HD, and I understand these are not that good any way. So beside getting a bigger HD, I am replacing it to see if it don't correct this condition. What are the chances???

I don't know if putting the DSL on it is doing this, cause my wife says it never did this when she was using it and had a phone line connection. She said it never did operate what she thought was great, but no jittery boot page. Nothing has been changed on it except the DSL added.

After I get all these little bugs out of this thing it just might be a good computer......:D

Take care...........Gunny

[SARGE]

The jittery stuff may be the video. You can always scan the hd and save it for a backup if it checks out ok.

http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/

[redvette]

Thanks Sarge

I forgot to mention too, the Seagate does have a couple of bad sectors on it. More reason to replace it. I scanned it a couple of days ago, and found this out. Strange thing is it don't do this all the time. It is like the tooth ache and the Dentist...I need the new HD any way. I might run some thing off to Yahoo DSL support and see if they have seen this or have any ideas + check out what you suggested. Beside just fixing it, I like to know what I fixed it with. You know what I mean...............My old auto mechanics training I guess.

Take care.........Gunny

[glc]

Well - if the hard drive has bad sectors, it's on its way out, that's like cancer. PC Chips motherboards can have issues too, no offense, but they are the Yugos of motherboards. I highly doubt that the SBC Yahoo software can cause this, but it is pretty nasty, RASPPPoE (www.raspppoe.com) is a much neater connection manager.

[redvette]

Hi GLC

I will check that out, I guess all I have to do is download it and go from there. Thank you again.

Hey this is no time to pull any punches, hit me with your best shot, Give me all the honesty you can muster. You will not hurt my feelings by telling me I have a piece of junk. I did not make this or buy it, so no problem.....:D

I would have preferred you used the Edsel instead of the Yugo, boy that was one ugly car. Look up ugly in the dictionary and you will see a picture of the Yugo....:D

I was just going by it started when I took on the DSL. I know this brings into play so many other issues. I know showing those bad sectors is not good, especially on a small drive too. I dont think this has any thing to do with it, but I have been getting booted off now and then, doing nothing in perticuler, just kicks me off. I am going to check out Yahoo support DSL about the jittery and the getting booted off for no reason. I mean there is a reason but I don't know it....

Take care...........Gunny :D

[glc]

I picked the Yugo analogy because the Yugo was cheap and crappy - the Edsel wasn't cheap, just crappy.

Jittery has nothing to do with the DSL, but getting booted might - especially if you are using a USB modem. The SBC software is terrible, full of background processes and spyware.

[redvette]

HI GLC

Hey that Edsel was a great car, my Dad had a Edsel stationwagon, with overdrive, and we put some kind of miles on that car. Back and forth across this USA many a time, never did give him any problems, great car.

Hey on that site you sent me on the Ethernet thing, www.raspppoe.com, which version do I click on, the 32 bit or the 64bit? And does this take the place of the one I have with SBCYahoo? Not using a USB modem. That brings up another question, is there some place a person can go on their computer to check to see if they have any of this spyware?

Take care.........Gunny

[glc]

32 bit, follow the Win98 install instructions. Yes, this takes the place of the Enternet 300 connection manager. Uninstall all the SBC junk and clean out the spyware first. RASPPPoE is just a stub that hooks your PPPoE into the Windows dialup networking facility - clean, neat, and simple. The only disadvantage is SBC won't support it if you have issues and they will make you reinstall all their crap if you call for support.

Spybot Search & Destroy or Ad-Aware will find the spyware.

[SARGE]

I'll vouch for the RASPPPOE over SBC software. I originally used their stuff just to get registered then uninstalled it. Couldn't believe all the extra "junk" that was installed behind the scenes. I then found from glc that I could have registered with a simple dial-up connection and used that to download RASPPPOE.