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Markoman01027
12-12-2003, 01:50 AM
Hey all,

I am stuck in a dilemma. I bought a P4 with hyper threading technology, and I just found out that my favorite Windows OS does not support it(Windows 2000) so I am forced to upgrade to Windows XP if I want to use HT.

I guess I don't really need to use HT, as the games that I am gonna be running and the programs wont need HT.

But still, I paid good money for the CPU, might aswell use it to it's full potential..damn..I am stuck :confused:

lil Jimmie
12-12-2003, 02:02 AM
Personally I would have no problem going from 2K to XP so long as it was the PRO version. 2K is a great OS but I have to say XP has more to offer for me anyhow. If given the choice of 2K or XP Home I'd stay with 2K.

Confused
12-12-2003, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by lil Jimmie
Personally I would have no problem going from 2K to XP so long as it was the PRO version. 2K is a great OS but I have to say XP has more to offer for me anyhow. If given the choice of 2K or XP Home I'd stay with 2K.

I don't understand your reasoning. Only thing Pro offers over Home is dual processor support and ability to join a domain. Unless one has a need for either of those enhancements, then Home version is all you need. I run Pro but I got in on the MS Partening program that was offered couple of years ago and got my copy for $39.00.

For me the upgrade decision from 2000 to XP would not hinge on Home or Pro, but rather would it offer enough with the hyperthreading support to be worth it. Not being a gamer I have no idea. But I do believe the Home version is all one needs unless they are part of a domail or running a dual processor.
Chas

raftero
12-12-2003, 10:43 AM
i also got xp-pro on the program confused mentioned and i have home on another computer,i see no difference for home use,have wk2 on another and i really like the xp better(no real reason just preference).

lil Jimmie
12-12-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Confused
I don't understand your reasoning.

The biggest reason is "Simple File Sharing" you cannot set user rights on folders, files and drives with the Home version. Well you can set folder and file permissions on the drive/partition that XP Home is installed on but that's it.

M. A. Dockter
12-12-2003, 03:01 PM
Windows 2000 doens't support hyperthreading per-say. What it does do is detect your HT CPU as dual processors, which should function just the same.

We have done this to a group of 20 workstations here @ UWL with no problems at all.

lil Jimmie
12-12-2003, 03:15 PM
My understanding is Windows 2000 will detect it as a dual cpu but will not take advantage of the Hyper Threading technology.

Markoman01027
12-12-2003, 04:27 PM
The Asus motherboard manual says to disable HT if you do not have Windows XP to not lose system stability.

So should I keep HT turned on even if I am gonna be running Windows 2000? TIA.

glc
12-13-2003, 03:20 AM
I'm running HT on a couple Win2K boxes for a customer, no problems. Intel motherboards.

Markoman01027
12-13-2003, 03:48 AM
Thanks for the reply guys..

I looked at the box, and it said intel thermal solution. I looked at the heat sink, and I saw no thermal pad. All I see is a black square underneath the heat sink. That must be the thermal solution.

SonicVanguard
12-13-2003, 10:46 AM
I was under the impression that to take advantage of a HT CPU, your motherboard also had to support HT technology and then the OS will "see" your CPU as a dual setup - as long as the OS supports dual CPU's.

Dave.

Panama Red
12-13-2003, 11:14 AM
Found the following info at Intel. Clearly states XP Home and Pro only. Check it out.

http://support.intel.com/support/platform/ht/os.htm

glc
12-13-2003, 11:16 AM
Yes, the black patch is the thermal pad.

HAL9000
12-13-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by lil Jimmie
The biggest reason is "Simple File Sharing" you cannot set user rights on folders, files and drives with the Home version. Well you can set folder and file permissions on the drive/partition that XP Home is installed on but that's it.

I'll have to argue that LJ.... boot XP Home to safe mode, log in as Adminastrator, then set your permissions. While not the most convenient way to do it.... I don't think Pro is worth the extra $100+CDN for that feature.

lil Jimmie
12-13-2003, 02:11 PM
Why argue when I said you can set permissions with Home but it's limited.

HAL9000
12-13-2003, 02:55 PM
But it's not limited, you just have to get to them differently.