tank game???

[Briab Guy]

I'm looking for a "good" tank game
any suggestions?
PC or Xbox (perfer PC)

[Xayd]

You want realistic or not?

Tanks determine the outcome of every game in BF1942, if you're looking for a simple multiplayer game with tanks in it.

It's not very realistic, tanks are controlled by one person (2 people tops assuming one is on the top 50 caliber gun), but it is fun ;).

[i3OSS]

Mechwarrior? if that counts as a tank that is.

[sdkfz]

What era?

I liked Panzer Commander, WWII era might be hard to find these days though. edit found it for 10 bucks here

http://www.chipsbits.com/cgi-bin/order.cbi_home?&source=84522&page=&newpage=infopages/PANZC.IR.html

Steel Panthers can be had for free from matrix games and goes through WWII to modern times, but it is not pure tank game and is a large download.

The combat mission games from Battlefront.com are another WWII series that are good, but not pure tank either.

There were some good modern tank games based on the M-1, but I'd have to defer judgement on them to others

[Propain]

This is a vehicle link for 1942. Just click on the various nations to see what types of vehicles are in the game. http://www.planetbattlefield.com/bf1942/game/vehicles/


cheers

[mystvearn]

SNES/NES I forgot- there is this tank game, 2 players. You need to protect your leader (which looks like some kiind of eagle symbol inside a brick wall. If the general is destroyed, gameover. If you are killed, gameover. I think its called Battle City :D I like that game. Maybe you can find the ROM and emulators

[Briab Guy]

should have been clearer huh.
I kinda dont know what tank game I am looking for. Its just that I have never played any tank game and I realized that it should make for a great game.
WWll etc would be great, since I like the WWll flight sims.
I have yet to play 1942 but everyone says its good.
I have played almost all the mech games and liked them a lot.
I'm supprised that there are not more games with tanks ?

Thanks for the help
B

[Xayd]

BF1942 is probably the most played and most balanced game in which tanks are a big factor in the gameplay, as far as first person shooters go.

It's not just tanks, although there are very tank-centric maps (like Tobruk, Aberdeen, and Battle of the Bulge). Every map in the game has at least one tank.

You do have planes and artillery in the game though so you will be bombed and shelled from a galaxy far far away, not to mention shot with panzershreks/bazookas and having mines and dynamite thrown at you, but such is life (and death ;)).

[Kane040]

I saw a tank game called "treadmarks" I think it was. I saw it in compusa and it looked pretty good for a tank game.

[Briab Guy]

PRETTY COOL:
http://www.treadmarks.com/

[AngryLawnGnome]

There are no good tank games. There are also no decent tank games. Tanks are garbage, as well as the people who like them. If you drive a tank, you're a lazy scoundrel without a really nice sweater. Maybe if you had that sweater you wouldn't like tanks, and in turn quit your zoo job to stay away from cleaning up after animals (where your sweater would get dirty).

[Briab Guy]

Good point. I have not found one yet.
I am wondering if you have any other advice about life?

[AngryLawnGnome]

Umm...I don't have too much time to go into much depth, but for one:
Never put a mouse, no matter how clean you may think it is, in your mouth. For one, it's not cute. Plus, if it's spotted, you'll be the guy that put a spotted mouse in his mouth. Trust me, I know from experience.

[Briab Guy]

I have been thinking about this mouse thing for a while now and I want you to know that I don'

[Piro-san]

*Glares at LawnGnome* HOW CAN YOU HATE A GAME WHERE YOU BLOW ISH UP!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!??

[pickledchicken]

What's with Piro-san? What's With AngryLawnGnome? What's with everyone? By the way Halo isn't a real tank game, but it still rocks, and it has tanks in it.

[sheeepy the noob]

battlefield is great for tanking cause its not some noob game where you go in and smash things with one shot... some tanks are more powerful than others... hit tanks in the back where there weaker...

also if you like BIG explosions try desert combat...

[Xayd]

Honestly a realistic tank game probably wouldn't be very fun. Tanks are controlled by multiple people and fight stuff super-long ranges away these days.

Plus, even when considering older tanks, realism is not necessarily a good thing.

True story - back at the end of world war 2 a single Tiger tank defending the Reichstag at the end of the war successfully held its ground for a single day, which saw the death of around 30 Russian T34s...one Tiger killed them all
(unfounded rumor states that one guy popped his head out afterwards and said "gg, owned").

But how fun would a video game be in which there were vast differences in tank construction, technology, etc?

Simple is better, and balance is better than realism, so yeah BF1942 has one of the better video game tank implementations ;).

[Briab Guy]

Xayd,
OK, OK. I stand corrected. I only want the realism that playing "games" have come to be.
If all games that say they are real, actualy were they would be very boring. I can see it now, The new SWAT game. Sit in front of a building doing survalence for 5 hours. Then you get to kick the door in and everyone gives up! Next level!
Better yet, lets take it to the highest level of realism, if you get shot in the game, a stranger comes to your house and shoots you. NO next level! :-)
Just messing around, I know what you mean. I never played any of the sub games, but talk about boring, if they are true to life!
thanks for the info
For what its worth, all the shows on the history ch. swear that the Tiger was the best tank ever made. That is of course for the times.

[tomster2300]

Go with Battlefield, you'll love it. It still hasn't really gotten old for me. They've got an awesome pirates mod for it---I'm getting off topic. (Hey, you could compare the galleons to tanks)

(More people really need to play that mod, there's only around 20 or so people who really play it.--the more people, the more incentive the creators would have to make new levels)

Yeah the tanks are simple, but usually play a huge role in whether u win or not in Battlefield. I had an old tank game that came in a set. It's by the guys who made comanche 3 -(it came bundled with comanche 3 and some jet game) I'll post it when I can find it. It was a somewhat fun tank game, though I dont think it will run on windows xp.

[tomster2300]

One more thing, what's up with AngryLawnGnome and eating mice? Just wondering...

[Xayd]

That's the great thing that they stumbled upon with battlefield.

Everything is simple to learn, but there's still room for individual skill to progress quite a bit as you play over the course of a few months to a year.

So you can have fun with it the first day, and the more you play, the better you get, so there's a reward factor to keep playing too.

Despite it's handful of flaws it's been a great game.

And I agree on the Tiger, even if you look at most of the world's tank designs to this day, they have alot of resemblances to the WW2 Tiger tank. The germans may have been nazi bastards but their engineeering skill has stood the test of time ;).

[sheeepy the noob]

Originally posted by Xayd
[B]Honestly a realistic tank game probably wouldn't be very fun. Tanks are controlled by multiple people and fight stuff super-long ranges away these days.


True story - back at the end of world war 2 a single Tiger tank defending the Reichstag at the end of the war successfully held its ground for a single day, which saw the death of around 30 Russian T34s...one Tiger killed them all
(unfounded rumor states that one guy popped his head out afterwards and said "gg, owned").



our great american army, instead of making a more powerful tank, decided to sic 8 shermans to every tiger, having 7 be a distraction, one go around the back end, and having to try and not blow up the tank like most people think they do, but peirce the armor and kill the crew and driver...

[Smidget]

Originally posted by Xayd
Honestly a realistic tank game probably wouldn't be very fun. Tanks are controlled by multiple people and fight stuff super-long ranges away these days.

Plus, even when considering older tanks, realism is not necessarily a good thing.

True story - back at the end of world war 2 a single Tiger tank defending the Reichstag at the end of the war successfully held its ground for a single day, which saw the death of around 30 Russian T34s...one Tiger killed them all
(unfounded rumor states that one guy popped his head out afterwards and said "gg, owned").

But how fun would a video game be in which there were vast differences in tank construction, technology, etc?

Simple is better, and balance is better than realism, so yeah BF1942 has one of the better video game tank implementations ;).

You're also forgetting the Russian, Ukranian, Finland, French, Polish, Swedish, etc defectors who were the main force defending the Reichstag, Hitlers bunker and Germany in general. They made up 90% of the forces defending the first 2 mentioned area's as they were ideologically alligned with nazism. So it was russian vs russian at times too.

[Briab Guy]

tomster2300,
Thanks for the info (and everyone else). Believe it or not, I have Battlefield sitting here but have yet to play it for very long. I messed with it for about a 1/2hr, but didnt see where it was going and I am in the middle of being addicted to Raven Shield, I think I have just about every MOD/MAP there is out there! So I will probably try BF again soon. By the time I was finished with Ghost R I had 5CD's full of maps and mods.
OH, I think they booted the Gnome, and I have no idea of what he(she?) was about. eating mice? hmmmm
thanks again

[CrazyMike]

Desert Combat can be a pretty cool tank game. Some maps are pure armour, not to mention it uses modern tanks.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by sheeepy the noob
our great american army, instead of making a more powerful tank, decided to sic 8 shermans to every tiger, having 7 be a distraction, one go around the back end, and having to try and not blow up the tank like most people think they do, but peirce the armor and kill the crew and driver...

Yep, it was rather sad when the US decided to use Communist tatics rather then using the little gray cells.

[corosus]

Originally posted by sheeepy the noob
our great american army, instead of making a more powerful tank, decided to sic 8 shermans to every tiger, having 7 be a distraction, one go around the back end, and having to try and not blow up the tank like most people think they do, but peirce the armor and kill the crew and driver...


i disagree, during WOII (as well as during WO1) nobody could make better steel than the German industry. the quality was vastly superior to anything anyone else had.
the us came from a isolationist politic, and did not have much experience in building modern (for that day) weapons; the modern weapons they had where developed for the arms trade with the British (the P51 mustang was originally an order by the RAF), and being an island the British where not really interested in tanks.
the one thing the US had that the Germans did not have(in equal amounts) was capacity. the USA is a big country, so it can produce lage amounts of the thing they want to produce.

the victory of numbers over quality, that the Sherman vs. tiger struggle was, has to be seen in light of those facts as a deliberate and successful strategy.
yes i know it's not nice/honourable, to send 8 men , knowing the big strong guy can never kill them all, but it works almost every time, and in real war that's very important (you can't go back to a saved game ;))


in answer to the original question; a successful and realistic tank simulator is very hard to do, because a tank has a crew, not just a driver, and you can do only one job at a time. i know a tank game looks cool (you can blow stuff up) but that get's boring really fast, you need someone else in a tank, or with anti tank weaponry, and a tank on it's own has almost no defence against modern anti-tank weaponry (think for instance about the A10)
IMHO the only really fun games that involve tanks are strategy games (maybe mompg, i don't know haven't really played much of those yet)

ps. i don’t have time right now to do proper research and document all i said , but some of you know me personally, and those that do, can vouch for my knowledge on Both World war's

***edit:
Originally posted by grasshopperbe
, corosus might want to spell-check a bit more often :)
done ;-)****

[grasshopperbe]

ps. i dont have time right now to do proper reaserch and document all i said , but some of you know me personaly, and those taht do, can voutch for my knowlegde on Both World war's


yep that's certain, corosus might want to spell-check a bit more often :) but he absolutely knows a whole lot about both world wars. and i guess even more about military airplanes and ships(boats?) .

[Rommel]

Not good?

You are ignorant, that is your problem!

You never listen about:

STEEL BEASTS?
M1 TANK PLATOON II?
FANTASTICS SIMULATORS!

OTHERS:
ARMORED FIST III?
PANZER ELITE
PANZER COMMANDER
ARMORED ASSAULT
TREAD MARKS

[padawan]

Rommel, chill out man. You guys can bicker all you want, just keep it mature and no name calling.

Thanks,

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