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macrymble
03-25-2004, 11:16 PM
I'm looking for a new heatsink to replace my current AMD 2200+ stock heatsink.

i've narrowed my selection down two heatsinks, which are practically the same thing, but i dont' know exactly what's different about them....can someone please explain the differences to me?

heatsink #1 -- http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-109-112&depa=1

heatsink #2 -- http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-109-011&depa=1


Also, since these are just heatsinks i would need to get a good fan, preferably quiet...i do want to do some overclocking, but nothing extreme. What would be a good fan choice and how would i attach it to the heatsink? (i don't see any screwholes or a mechansim)

Thanks!

aZnf0B89
03-25-2004, 11:26 PM
the 1st one is only for AMD socket A while the 2nd one is for both intel socket 478 and AMD socket A

as for the fan, if you want serious oc on air, i would recommend the vantec tornado 92mm

Brown Hornet
03-26-2004, 01:22 AM
both are good choice's,but the first HS bolts directly to your motherboard.the second one which i use does not.make sure your board can accomodate if you choose HS #1

macrymble
03-26-2004, 09:23 AM
What are the advantages/disadvantages of using each one? Can my ASUS a7n8x deluxe board accommodate the one that's attached directly to the board? Which one is easier to attach and holds more tightly? The heatsinks look rather large...has anyone else used either of these on my board? I'm kind of worried about space.

Also, What are some more fan choices? I don't have any experience with that vantec, but it just sounds loud! :p I guess i'm looking for a nice compromise between noise and power...nothing extreme either way. and how do i attach the fan to the heatsink? i don't see any screwholes or anything...

thanks again..

Cricket
03-26-2004, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by macrymble
Also, since these are just heatsinks i would need to get a good fan, preferably quiet...i do want to do some overclocking, but nothing extreme. What would be a good fan choice and how would i attach it to the heatsink? (i don't see any screwholes or a mechansim)Panaflo L1A for a quiet set up. Panaflo H1A if you want a little more cooling power (but is a little more noisy).

The fans are held on to the heatsink with spring steel wires that attach to the base of the heatsink and the fan screw holes.

I'd use the SLK900A. I've heard of people having real problems trying to get that screw down heatsink attached to their motherboards. If you don't get the order of the washers, spacers and whatever just right, it will either put too much pressure on the CPU (and maybe crush it) or not enough pressure and your temps will go up.

:) Cricket

Brown Hornet
03-26-2004, 02:06 PM
i use the slk900a and it was a piece of cake installing.like cricket said the 947-u can be a pain,i have read of people cracking the CPU core.as for fan's go with what cricket suggested the panaflo h1a

i3OSS
03-26-2004, 08:21 PM
THE FIRST LINK is for BOTH AMD AN INTEL
THE SECOND LINK is for AMD ONLY

Just clearing that up

macrymble
03-26-2004, 08:53 PM
Allrighty, then....I'll get the slk900a with a panaflow h1a. you can't argue with someone with almost 16,000 posts :D

But I am still wondering about the attaching mechanism...do those springs come with the fan or heatsink? or do i have to buy them separately?

macrymble
03-26-2004, 09:05 PM
About the panaflo h1a...i noticed that it's considered a case fan...does that matter at all? is there really any difference when vendors specify "case" or "cpu" fan as long as they both fit the cpu?

Typically every computer component i purhcase online comes from newegg, but when i looked for the 80mm panaflo h1a on newegg, i only found one fan from them. (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-180-011&depa=1) I think it's still the h1a but a 92mm version instead. would this fit or be worthwhile to use on my heatsink?

thanks for answering all my annoying questions :D

Brown Hornet
03-26-2004, 11:03 PM
if you buy the slk900a it come with clips to fit different size fans 70mm 80mm 92mm they are easy to attach.i have a Tt smart case fan on my slk900 so a case fan will work.most people who choose the slk900a go with a 92mm fan like the panaflo,just make sure you have the room.also read the review's at newegg they talk about a connector for the fan.

Cricket
03-27-2004, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by macrymble
About the panaflo h1a...i noticed that it's considered a case fan...does that matter at all? is there really any difference when vendors specify "case" or "cpu" fan as long as they both fit the cpu?Vendors don't differentiate between "case" or "CPU" fan...a fan is a fan...but you have to make sure you get the right type of power connector, a 3 pin or a 4 pin. The 3 pin connector connects directly to the motherboard. The 4 pin connector connects directly to the power supply power lead.

:) Cricket

macrymble
03-27-2004, 11:51 AM
I see the dimensions of the heatsiink are: L96 x W59 x H44 mm Top, Without fan. L34 x W59 Base. Wouldn't a 92mm or even an 80mm fan be too wide and not long enough? Does this matter at all?

I mean, only 67% of a 92mm fan would actually cover this heatsink. So, only 67% of the listed 56.8cfm airflow would actually be going into the hs...that's 38cfm and 35db....not quite as great of a noise/performance ratio as i would like..

Also, i have absolutely no idea how loud 35 db is...does anyone know where i can find the specs for the stock hs/fan for the amd 2200+ so i can use my current noise as a comparison?


Sorry for all the questions...i can't order this for another couple days, so i figured i might as well make sure i'm getting exactly what i want and need. :D

Brown Hornet
03-27-2004, 04:02 PM
looking at other fans and specs i would guess your stock fan is anywhere between 20 & 30 db.you should be ok with 35db

macrymble
03-27-2004, 06:50 PM
well, i've been looking around some more and i've come upon 2 brand new heatsinks...one from swiftech and one from thermalright. They both seem to be very upper end, which is what i want.

Thermalright sp-97 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-109-113&depa=1&section=3)

Swiftech MCX462-V (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-020&depa=1&section=1)


Please give me your thoughts on these 2...this thermalright one can only be bolted to the motherboard..:-/

Also, what about my previous fan questions?? Should i just stop worrying and buy the panaflo h1a?

thanks

Tin
03-27-2004, 08:34 PM
instead of the H1A, try the H1B, as it moves a healthy 56.8cfm. same fan im using, very good for the money. i would opt for the SP-97 over the MCX462-V simply because the heatpipes make it that much more efficient. the MCX462-V is more comparable to an SLK-900A/U.

mb26
03-28-2004, 12:49 PM
unless u are going to be doing *extreme* overclocking (and u said u aren't going to be), the slk 900a is more than enough.

the fact that some of the 92mm fan is larger (one way) than the HS, isn't a problem, it would cool the area around the HS, which would allow the HS to transfer heat better. it can also sometimes cool the north bridge..

if u have another (old) 92mm fan, then consider taking out the middle and using it as a sort of duct, as tin is doing.

if u want quiet then try a vantec stealth or Panaflo L1A.. u should get moderate overclocking with either i think. u could also consider an adjustable fan, such as the enermax adjustable, so u can get the balance between noise and temperatures.

JPMiller
03-28-2004, 01:47 PM
I have the SLK -700 version of the heatsinks you are talking about on the same board you have, the A7N8X Deluxe, and have alot of experience with the SLK line in general....
Mine is on an oveclocked 2500+ with a speed adjustable fan...
I highly recommend this line of heatsinks (Thermalright SLK line that is...)
And very much suggest you get a speed adjustable fan, the largest your Heatsink holds.
There is no problem with board clearance with these Heatsinks when talking about the Asus board you have.
I can suggest another source for purchasing these HS's and fans....
SVC (http://www.svcompucycle.com./thermalright-brand.html) , they also have some nice fans...
As you only have a 2200+ CPU any of these Heatsinks will be overkill... I would simply look for the cheapest and get a good manually adjustable fan for it. My suggestion is one of these combos...
Heatsink Budget (http://www.svcompucycle.com./thal.html) ... Higher End (http://www.svcompucycle.com./thslcl.html)
Fans 1... (http://www.svcompucycle.com./convarspeedc.html) ... 2... (http://www.svcompucycle.com./en80vasphipe1.html) ... 3... (http://www.svcompucycle.com./aerocool-xflow.html)

macrymble
03-28-2004, 01:53 PM
well, no, i guess i won't be doing anything extreme, but i might want to in the future and i guess i just dont want to be stuck with something that's inadequate for that. I mean, the sp-97 is only like $10 more...

I know i only have a 2200+ now, but i'm going to upgrade to a 2800 soon (hopefully soon, anyway :D) and besides...my 2200 is running at 60C idle right now, so i can still make use of a good heatsink...

after seeing your hs/fan suggestions, JPMiller, i think i'll still go with the slk900a, but i'm wondering about my panafloh1a fan....I can buy a fan controller separately, can't I?

Tin
03-28-2004, 02:32 PM
a better heatsink may be the SLK-948U, since it supports socket 754/939/940 as well as 462 and 478 ;)

JPMiller
03-28-2004, 04:02 PM
Yes you can... and that allows for future upgrades without having to worry about its ability to be adjustable... If money is not the main concern then the SLK 900A is a great choice!