IP Address

[BedRock]

When one goes into command mode and does a ipconfig /all, it shows an ip adddress and a subnet mask. Where do these values come from.

I have a pc that has a Linksys WMP54G wireless adapter in it.

When it is booted under Win 2000 Pro it shows one set of addresses. In fact it is an address that reflects what the router (WRT54G) has set.

When he same PC is booted under Windows XP professional, IPCONFIG /all shows a completely different address. It seems to me that they should be the same. I am not using bridging or Microsoft's firewall as far as I can tell. Where is this address coming from? I think it is preventing me from finding my internet connection.

Thanks

[Statica]

What IP address and subnet mask is being shown on your XP? and what IP address and subnet mask is being shown on Win2K?

[bailey]

if you could post what the two differant address are, we can tell you what ther are and from where they came

[BedRock]

win/2000 pro
ip address: 192.168.1.150
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

win/xp pro
ip address: 169.254.50.163
subnet mask: 255.255.0.0

[bailey]

ok the system with the 254 in it is getting that from wins and not the router. wins set the ip address when it cannot find a dchp server, which is the router. and the subnet mask should be 255.255 255.0 the same as the other system which is correct

[BedRock]

Thank you for identifying that. How do I make the win/xp system get the ip address etc. from the router instead of wins?
I really want the ip address to be 192.168.1.150 in both systems....

[bailey]

go to the internet connectios and set it to get ip address automaticaly and to connect to the internet through the lan

and no you do not want both systems to have the same ip address
if the one has the 150 then the other one will have 151
it goes to the next number for each system connected to the lan

[BedRock]

Thanks for your rapid response. The win/2000 machine and the win xp machine are the same physical hardware,, just booted differently. Why can it not share addresses? More importantly, I do have get ip address automaticaly set in network connections. where else should I set it?

[bailey]

oh, then your dual booting and only useing one at a time, then that would be fine,
just make the same settings in the xp-pro as you have in the w2000 system, that should do it for you

[BedRock]

My pronblrm is that i do not know how to make win xp get the ip adress form the router. I do have "get ip address automaticaly" set in network connections in both win xp and win/2000. If that is the thing that determines what ip address to use, why am i getting differnt addresses? Moe importantly, how do i fix win/xp to get the address from the router?

[bailey]

I'm looking it up

[bailey]

Originally posted by bailey
I'm looking it up

ok go to control panel
click on network connections
right click on the internet connection
highlite the tcp/ip protocal and right click on it
you will then see the settings

[BedRock]

You are getting faster and faster... Soon you will be answering me before I ask...

Here is some help.. In win xp, the wmp54g adapter is supported by the zero (haha) configuration utility. In win2000 it is supported by the wlan monitor. Inside the zero configuration utility, under network connections (tcp properties) i have the get ip address automatically checked. I though that would do it, but it does not apparently...

[BedRock]

As I said... you answered before I asked...

I have the setting checked... now what do i do?

[bailey]

ok you may want to change that protocal for the adapter.
use the ver.6 one and set the ip and dns to auto

[BedRock]

Should i just uncheck it and manually supply

ip address: 192.168.1.150
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.68.1.1
DNS 1: 68.82.0.5
DNS 2: 68.50.0.6

??

[BedRock]

use the version 6 one????

[bailey]

no do not do that

while looking at the list of protocals in the propreties window.

click on install
click on protocal
then add
select the ver.6 one

then ok

[BedRock]

will try that
need to logoff win2000 and logon win xp to do that
be back shortly to report

[BedRock]

I am back...

There is no "version 6" in protocol.

So I tried manually setting the addresses. That worked relative to ipconfig /all, but i still do not get an internet connection.

[bailey]

you clicked to add a protocal and there should have been a list of 3 choices

the top one is the ver 6

then the network monitor

then the third one was nwlink ipx/spx

[BedRock]

only had the last two in my list
My xp is base version, not sp1
to get sp1 i need net acccess to download it

[bailey]

it should be on the xp cd

[BedRock]

Hmmmm...

How do I get to it?

Two versions?

[BedRock]

can i download it from mictrosoft under win2000 and move it to win xp?

[bailey]

yes down it from the catalog and save the file
move it to the xp partition and then install it.

you might try going to the add/remove programs and click on the left side of the window for add remove windows componets then check make sure you have all the networking stuff installed first

[BedRock]

good idea
i will try those things
thanks so much for your help..

[BedRock]

I have researched some things and tried some things...

Apparently v6 refers to v6 of IP, containing the new addressing scheme. There does not seem to be a way to download that separately under win2000 for installation under win/xp. It also appears that to get v6 you have to also have sp1.

I also cannot figure out a way to download the sp1 upgrade under win2000 for installation under win/xp. All of this stuff is wrapped up in "windows update" which wants to work with the operating system of the downloading machine.

Unless I am missing something, there is no way for me to download win/xp sp1 unless I get win xp w/o service packs to access the internet. And it appears there is no way to access the internet unless I get sp1 installed.

So, I can either move cards all around in my machine so that I can add a wired ethernet card to my machine and somehow riun a cable; I can order a sp1 update cd from microsoft by mail; or I can go trade in all my linksys stuff for some other vendor's stuff that might work.

Does anyone out there see any other solutions that might work?

Thanks....

[bailey]

you did not go to there update catalog like I suggested,
from there you can download the file and save it without installing it, then copy the file to the other partition and then install it.

[BedRock]

I was in "software catalog" but it looked like things to buy. Didn't see v6 nor sp1.... Am I missing somthin? You have a url to follow?

Thanks for your interest...

JimL

[glc]

Look in your XP network connections, and remove all "bridged" connections - it sounds like you ran the XP networking wizard and answered the questions incorrectly.

[BedRock]

That is entirely likely. At one pont I did have a bridge. I tried to remove all the connections, and I think i did.. But, my pc still fails to connect to internet.

I am thinking I shour format the drive that has xp on it and try to reload from scratch, this time answering questions right.

Do you know what answers I should use given the configuration of pc connected to router connected to cable modem where i do not use microsoft's firewall or the stuff where all pc's connect thru my xp pc.

I fI knew for sure what to answer, I would try the entire reload approach. Or, if thre is a place i should look to see any bridge connections I didn't yet remove, I would try that first.

However the window that contains my wireless connection Icon contains ONLY the wireless connection icon. Before I cleaned it up, it had a bridge connection as well.


Thx
JimL

[glc]

As I remember, the first choice in the wizard should be "other", then "this computer is connected directly to the Internet", then do NOT enable the firewall and dismiss the dire warning. Connecting through a router is essentially the same thing as being directly connected, your PC needs to see the router as the DHCP server and gateway. If you enable the firewall, you won't be able to share files and printers over your lan.