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12-06-2005, 08:27 AM
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building a gaming pc
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Im looking to build a gaming pc for around 800 bucks! I already have monitor and keyboard and moouse. So the things i need advice on are what motherboard, Cpu, Graphics card, Ram, Case, Power supply and whatever else i need i dont' know about. I dont' want a sound card because for right now ill just be satisfied with whatever comes with mother board. I also want to get something that will play high quality for atleast the next year. would also like to stick with newegg.com. Also was wondering about AMD and Intel because i know AMD is better but why are there processors in the 2-3ghz range when u can get a realalitively cheap Pent. 4 with over 3 ghz. Thanks if you could put the site link that would be helpful |
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12-06-2005, 08:31 AM
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oh i forgot to mention i need advice on hardd too.
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12-06-2005, 08:48 AM
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if you are looking for a place to start the build in my signature minus the raptor was somewhere around 800
amd and intel really arent that far apart but most people seem to prefer amd for gaming intel and amd make processors in different ways pentiums might have over 3.0clock speed but they dont have the fsb speed of an amd different architecture but run at similar overall speeds |
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12-06-2005, 09:29 AM
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It would be great if you could include a budget/max budget. Also try visiting Anandtech, Hardocp, they have some newegg builds which I think might suit you.
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12-06-2005, 09:33 AM
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he did include a budget it says 800
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12-06-2005, 12:49 PM
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If i wher u i would get a good amd procesor (4000+) cause they are cheaper and run at the same or faster speed than most intel's but thats you decition also u would like to stick with a good mother b cause thats the back bone of your system il recomend a (Asus A8N-SLI) get at least 2gb of corsair ram and the most important part of this rig is the video card since its a gaming il get a 6600gt but dont forget to get a good PSU with SLi support get a god CD/dvd rom and finally a good HD western digital/maxtor those are the most recomended brands.
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12-06-2005, 01:38 PM
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Arix....
You picked up on this pretty quick... good advice...happy building
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12-06-2005, 02:10 PM
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Thanks guys thats all very helpful. I am getting a little confused on making suer everyhing thing is compatibe. ANy advice PCi express x16, process will wrk with motherbboard ect.
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12-06-2005, 02:21 PM
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might be a good build but its not in his budget
there is no way he can build it for around 800 when its 334 for a athlon 64 4000 122 for the asus sli board 150 for 2 gig ram and around 150 for a 6600gt total of 756 i would recommend getting the athlon 64 3700 saves 100 dollars 233 getting 1 gig of dual channel corsair for about 70 6600gt would be a good choice for graphics card at about 150 you can go with that asus board for 122 a good nec optical dvdrw from newegg is about 40 a 200 or 250 gig hard drive for 90-100 antec case and psu for about 90 total is about 805 assuming you have everything else (monitor keyboard mouse and operating system) you could save money in a couple areas if you wanted if you dont need sli which unless you are planning on adding another graphics card you wont you could get the msi neo4-f motherboard for about 80 dollars that would knock off 40 also you could go from the 3700 to the 3500 processor that would save 30 |
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12-06-2005, 04:59 PM
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THIS IS WHAT I HAVE COME UP WITH AND THE TOTAL PRICE WAS ABOUT 820$ I WAS WONDERING IF THESE COMPONENTS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH EACH OTHER ECT. I REALIZE I DON[T HAVE A CASE SO IF SOMEONE HAS ONE THAT WLL WORK LET ME KNOW
CPU AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Price 283$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103531 HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3120827AS 120GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM Prsce 87$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148039 RAM CORSAIR XMS 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model CMX1024-3200C2PRO price 135$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145018 Video card connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card price 175$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814142052 ABIT AN8 SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard PRICE 139$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813127207 |
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12-06-2005, 05:13 PM
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Drop that to regular Corsair Value Select - Save $50+
You can't use ATi cards in SLI, so drop the SLI board (besides you need a SLI certified power supply), get the ASUS A8N-E and save another $40. Take this savings and upgrade to the X800XL (~$275). I've got this card and it pretty well plays any game on max settings.
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12-06-2005, 05:15 PM
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Why would you want an SLI mobo if u got one Video card (an ati one at that)? get an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum and get some corsair value ram instead
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12-07-2005, 01:05 AM
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what do u mean by value ram
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12-07-2005, 02:00 AM
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CPU AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Price 283$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103531
HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3120827AS 120GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM Prsce 87$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148039 Video card connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card price 175$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814142052 MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813130484 SONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DW-Q30A BK - OEM http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827131264 OCZ Platinum Series 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model OCZ4001024ELPE - Retail http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820227209 This came out to about 850$ is this better and are they compatible THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATING Last edited by messiah34; 12-07-2005 at 04:36 AM. |
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12-07-2005, 04:24 AM
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im almost clueless to what im doing that why
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12-07-2005, 07:44 AM
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thats a very nice setup there i would stick with that one.
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12-07-2005, 08:52 AM
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what they are saying is go with valueselect ram from corsair
its only like 80 dollars for a dual channel 2 x 512 pack and it will run as well as the more expensive stuff this will save you 60 dollars plus you need a case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129148 something like that would work and it would come with a good quality power supply that motherboard is a good motherboard and i highly recommend it ati video cards are not compatible with sli only nvidia cards so if you are not getting an sli card there is no point in getting an sli motherboard |
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12-07-2005, 12:00 PM
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Thanks that helps a lot
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12-07-2005, 12:09 PM
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do you have any other questions?
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12-07-2005, 04:26 PM
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i will in here in a bit because im gonna put what im gonna get and it would be most appreciated if you could tell me if it all is compatible
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12-07-2005, 05:18 PM
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oK THIS IS WHAT I HAVE CAME UP WITH FROM UR FEEDBACK. ARE THESE PARTS COMPATIBLE ECT. AND WHAT OEM MEANS INSTEAD OF RETAIL
Antec Solution SLK2650-BQE Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail Remove Add item to Cart $75.00 $75.00 Update MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3800BPBOX - Retail CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 333 (PC 2700) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT333 - Retail Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3120827AS 120GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM ONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DW-Q30A BK - OEM TOTAL 870$ THIS WORKS FOR ME I WAS WONDERING WHAT IT MEANT BY OEM. ONE OF MY FRIENDS SAID NOT TO BUY ANYTHNG OEM BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY HDD THAT DIDN' HAVE THAT. |
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12-07-2005, 05:41 PM
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Please don't type in all caps...it's hard to read and is considered shouting.
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. An OEM part isn't really meant to be sold to the end user (you), it's meant for system assemblers (like DELL or Gateway). An OEM part is exactly the same physically as a retail part. The only difference is that it doesn't come in a box with a fancy manual, usually doesn't come with extra software (but does come with the necessary drivers on CD), will sometimes have a different warranty from the retail unit and is cheaper. Cricket
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12-07-2005, 05:55 PM
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I don't think 350W power supply will be enough. Antec has some cases with 450W power supplies that might do the trick.
You want to get DDR400 RAM, that DDR333 will slow your computer down (DDR400 costs $10-$15 less). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440 You might also look at a LITE-ON DVD-Burners, they come with Nero burning software. Honestly, I'd come down in the CPU a bit, and go up in the video card. Right now a 3800+ and a X800GTO are a bit out of balance. Maybe a 3500+ and a X800XL or a 6800GT? |
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12-07-2005, 06:14 PM
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You will need an operating system too, get the OEM version of windows XP unless you need some specific feature of XP Pro. The OEM version is about 100 bucks less than the retail version.
You might need a floppy drive to install drivers etc..
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12-07-2005, 07:48 PM
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12-07-2005, 07:50 PM
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The X1800XL is a good counterpart to the 6800GT's, just to keep your options open.
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12-07-2005, 07:52 PM
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once again, i recommend the 3700+ San Diego as the best possible buy per dollar. for $50 less you get a near equivalent processor. plus it overclocks well and at 2.5GHz the performance increase is awesome! i jumped 2000 in benchmarks using Hot CPU Tester Pro.
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12-08-2005, 02:07 AM
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Well I didn't change the processor because I would like to upgrade later and I don't want to get a processor that might not have as much longevity. However, I did take your advice on the Ram and I upgraded the graphics card.
THe main thing i want to know is if these components are compatible and if this will be a good gaming pc for the latest games on high quality. I have exceeded my budget by 100 bucks, but with some xmas money I should be ok. Ok so here is what I have come up with, XION Ultimate Engineering XON-001 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450 Watt Power Supply (P4 & AMD Ready) Power Supply - Retail MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail XFX PVT70GUDF7 Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3800BPBOX - Retail CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3120827AS 120GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM SONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DW-Q30A BK - OEM Last edited by messiah34; 12-08-2005 at 07:10 AM. |
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12-08-2005, 05:11 AM
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wonderng if that case will work or if someone has some suggestions
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12-08-2005, 07:20 AM
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motherboard: epox socket 939 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813123243 80
Cpu: opteron 165 dual core http://www.onsale.com/onsale/shop/de..._id=bwbfroogle 300 Graphics card: evga 7800gt http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130247 310 Ram: ocz value 1gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227039 70 after mir HDD: maxtor 100gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144239 60 Case + PSU: antec sonata II + Smartpower 450w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129155 80 after mir = $900 just make sure u oc that proc to at least the speed of a x2 4800, it should easily reach that speed
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