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12-09-2005, 12:28 PM
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Power issue
I realize that you have this one many times but I will ask again.
I bought all the components: 2.8 GHz P4 CPU w/heatsink and fan 1GB memory Case w/ PS MOBO 250 GB SATA HDD Standard CD Drives I put the motherboard in however was not happy to notice there were only 3 case stents to raise the motherboard off the case so I put one on each side of the board to stabilize it. I put the CPU and llocked the heatsink and fan into place. I wired all the case wiring onto the board like the instructions said. I then added my hard drive and 1 CD drive. only after I did all that did I hook up the power supply to the board. After which I turned it on and nothing happened no bells, no beeps, no whistles, no fans nothing I made sure the setting was on 115 volts on the PS needless to say I'm disappointed I'm thinking the PS was faulty to begin with but would rather get a 2nd opinion first to make sure the diagnosis is true this is my 1st build and I was very proud of how hard I worked on this one so please someone please tell me I'm right and if I'm wrong what I can do to fix it. 
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12-09-2005, 12:33 PM
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What brand and wattage rating is that power supply? Typically power supplies bundled with cases are horrible quality, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear if it already died.
Are you sure those standoffs (stents) are over screw holes? Any stray ones can cause the motherboard to short.
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12-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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First of all - What kind of PSU are you using? Did it come with the case you ordered? (You beat me every time blue
 )Do you have the switch from your case connected properly to the motherboard header? |
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12-09-2005, 12:37 PM
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Yes I'm positive about the screwholes the wattage was 450watt power supply and the case was manufactured by ASYS. as far as the standoffs where can I buy more of them for safe measure and if I did ground the motherboard will it still work after it is no longer touching the case?
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12-09-2005, 12:39 PM
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Yes everything is as it should be I double and triple checked everything before turning it on |
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12-09-2005, 12:44 PM
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You could do this:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=132409 Just to rule out the possibility of a short. I can't find any info on that power supply, and that usually means its a bad quality power supply. I'd look at getting a quality unit from Antec, Enermax, Seasonic, Sparkle, or FSP (Forton Source). Whether or not the power supply is at fault, you'll be better off. What video card do you have? PCI-E or AGP? |
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12-09-2005, 12:46 PM
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If your PSU came with the case, chances are you are going to have to replace it. Those things are junk.
To tell if the motherboard is shorting out, try starting the system up out of the case with only the motherboard, PSU, RAM, and CPU. You beat me again Blue! |
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12-09-2005, 12:49 PM
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lol, but I did forget to mention to start it out of the case with only core components.
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12-09-2005, 12:52 PM
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you all are funny....LOL Thanks for the help the video is AGP I want to say 8X or maybe it's 4X don't have it right here with me at the moment. Do you suppose a computer store would have the extra standoffs for the case and if it did short will it work again once the problem is corrected?
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12-09-2005, 01:10 PM
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These might work. You should have 1 at each screw location. Check the motherboard manual. Also some cases have raised areas where some of the screws go. edit: link works for me. radio shack enter standoffs in search box scroll down to 10mm Insulated Standoffs 4-Pack Model: 276-1381 | Catalog #: 276-1381
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12-09-2005, 01:23 PM
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thanks but the link dont work....LOL
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12-10-2005, 03:00 AM
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12-10-2005, 08:31 AM
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Those are some of the best brands, but there a few more listed in blue here:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195 Forton has some good power supplies for the money. |
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12-10-2005, 01:02 PM
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What is your motherboard? What type of power supply to get varies between motherboards.
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12-11-2005, 08:39 PM
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The motherboard is a ECS P4M800-M7
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12-12-2005, 03:17 AM
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For that board you will need an ATX power supply with a 20 pin main connector and a 4 pin cpu power connector. sparkle or fortron are some of the less expensive, but dependable brands.
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12-12-2005, 01:53 PM
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I printed out a list of reputable manufacturers and took it with me to the store this morning. Fortunately the only one I could afford was a Thermaltake. I haven't installed it yet, will probably do that tonight when I get off work but hopefully that will take care of the problem
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