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Old 12-13-2005, 10:56 PM   #1
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Please help me

Guys, I tried searching on google but I can't find the answer. BTW, hi everyone Well, I want to get an AMD compatible motherboard, so I can use an AMD CPU. The motherboard I have chosen is an SLI motherboard. Great price. It supports socket 939 amd cpu's. Which is what I chose. KNow the problem is I don't want to dual. I want to use ATI cards. Do I have to use an Nvidia card, because its an SLI motherboard? I would ahve gotten a crossfire one, but I heard they are really bad (not stable) Its not like I'm going to dual, so will an HIS ATI x800GTO 256mb ICEQ2 turbo work with an SLI motherboard?
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:01 PM   #2
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Guys, please respond. I am about to order all my parts.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:40 AM   #3
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You can use ATI cards no problem, but they won't be able to run SLI, and you will only be able to effectively use one ATI card in that board.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:16 PM   #4
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If you are getting SLI, you could use an ATi card, but that'd be defeating the purpose of getting a SLI board; either get an nVidia card, or get a non-SLI board.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:19 PM   #5
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The reason I am getting this board in particular, i because its a very good price. It doesn't support SLi x16 for both cards, but it supports x8. I will get an Nvidia card one day, but the X800GTO ICEQ Turbo 2, I found is amazing for its price. BTW I was going to get Crossfire motherboard, but from all the reviews on it on newegg, people say its unstable
This is the motherboard I am going to get. Is it good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127225

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Old 12-14-2005, 07:28 PM   #6
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Abit make good quality motherboards, so it's a good choice.

Perhaps post the full list of your parts before you order?

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Old 12-14-2005, 07:33 PM   #7
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Okay heres the full list of parts. I am not getting a DVD, cd, or harddrive, because I am going to use my old ones. Oh yha I have a gig of ram already so I am going to use the ram I have.

You already know the motherboard, so I am not going to post that. Heres the rest

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535

Powersupply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153011

Video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...C-pr1c3grabb3r

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144170

Fans (case holds 4. It already comes with 2 and has 2 80mm extra slots
http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16811998108

Thats it. I really hope they work.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:47 PM   #8
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Why are you getting an ATi card? You won't be able to use SLI. It's your choice though, you don't have to use SLI.

You might look at the Antec Truepower II 480 (or 550). It's going to be a bit better, and will run quieter because it has one 120mm fan as opposed to two smaller ones.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:44 PM   #9
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Okay, I will look into those. The reason I am getting this card is because it was a great price, for an X800. And I am on a tight budget. So far everything averaged around 650. They are good parts though, even though they are not the best. I would have gotten crossfire board, but they have alot of problems, and are too expensive. If I find a 6800 with the same price as the x800 then I will buy it. But, do you think thats a good setup. Will it last me on games for a long time on highest graphics?
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:49 PM   #10
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So. Is this better? But some of the reviews said its not that stable. And would it work with all the parts I have chosen? And it has better cooling right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103932

Another reason why I chose the other supply is because it comes with a really nice fan that I can use for my CPU.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:52 PM   #11
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This one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931

I hope you realize how loud that blower fan will be (does have a controller though). Besides, if you alter the stock heatsink/fan, you'll void the warranty.

Your choice though.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:55 PM   #12
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Whats the difference between the two? BTW, it will work with my setup right?
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:59 PM   #13
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The one you posted is a server version (it would work, but you wouldn't need the extra server part). And it has a quieter, single, 120mm fan.
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The one blue linked to is preferred for home builds. The one you picked (EPS version) is designed for servers, and has extra connectors you won't need. Server-specific parts tend to be louder, as well. And if you insist on adding extra fans, look at Panaflo or Vantec Stealth brands. They operate more quietly than generic $5.00 fans. IMHO you don't need extra cooling anyway. A64 3200+ CPUs don't generate that much heat.
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Okay, I will go for that power supply. Its even SLI supported so if I ever get an Nvidia card, I can dual. Thanks for all your help guys. BTW, do you recommend getting a different fan and heatsink for the cpu I have chosen? I am not going to overclock, but I am going to be playing games. Not for like an hour, but for around 3 or 4 nonstop (when I have the time) Will the temp be ok? BTW, one last thing. Can you tell me the safe zones temperature wise for the: Videocard, and CPU? Thanks again everyone
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:14 PM   #16
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Uh-oh. I was reading the reviews and people said it gets really warm during gaming. Do you have this supply, and does it get really warm? Or does it stay at a good temperature. They said the fan moves slow, is there anyway to speed it up?
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The one blue linked to is preferred for home builds. The one you picked (EPS version) is designed for servers, and has extra connectors you won't need. Server-specific parts tend to be louder, as well. And if you insist on adding extra fans, look at Panaflo or Vantec Stealth brands. They operate more quietly than generic $5.00 fans. IMHO you don't need extra cooling anyway. A64 3200+ CPUs don't generate that much heat.
Okay, so I don't have to worry about cooling issues. But are the fans I picked out good? I might stick with those since I will upgrade to dual core (since motherboard supports it) down the road.
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:18 PM   #18
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The more load put on a power supply the warmer it gets. This happens to all power supplies. They're designed with this in mind. I wouldn't worry about it and I would take those user reviews at Newegg with a grain of salt...most of those guys don't know what they're talking about.

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:22 PM   #19
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Okay, so I wont worry about overheating. But can you still tell me the temperature my vid card, and cpu should be at? This is my first custom computer and I don't want anything going wrong. I currently have a HPa250n. I upgraded it with a Creative Labs Soundblaster Live soundcard, ATI Radeon 128mb 9600xt, and 1 gig of ram. BTW, is the motherboard I have chosen a good one?

Oh and sorry for so many questions. I am just real curious, and want everything to go perfect. I appreciate all your help, everyone
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:25 PM   #20
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Spartan, relax the heatsink and fan that comes with the processor will keep your CPU at safe temperature levels. I just built a comp, no matter if I leave my comp on 2hrs or 20hrs it always stays at 70-80F which is actually cold. I like your case but i would recommend mine RAIDMAX (1 120mm, 1 80mm EXTREMEMELY QUIET). ALso since your never going to go SLI forget that SLI PSU and get an Xclio, mine is abnormally quiet, i have to put my ear on the case to see if my computer is on or not. That's my $0.02.
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:33 PM   #21
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I would like to say, that the community in these forums are great. Everyone here is so friendly. Thanks everyone. And I am going to check that case out right now. I might go with that supply. Who knows, I might SLI one day. When I find a good priced 6800. I signed up for that free x1880 contest from ATI. Lol, there is no way I am going to win. But hey, it was worth a try I just wished the Crossfire motherboards were stable. I will also look into that PSU.

Can you give me the link to that case? There are alot of RAIDMAX cases. BTW, will all the parts fit into the case I picked out?
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:39 PM   #22
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Nice! I found a 6800 at a great price. What do you guys think of this? I just have to learn how to SLI two cards. I hope it doesn't require alot of steps. Lol.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
I will buy the second one later on. But is this as good as the X800 I picked before?

Darn it only has 8 pixel pipelines. Guess I will keep searching for at least 12

Can this card SLI? It doesn't mention it. Oh and BTW. What is better (honestly) ATI or NVIDIA? I hear that ATI has better Antialiasing.

I will go with this card, depending on what you guys think.

Wow theres another card, but its the same one as above. But it costs a little less. The model number is diff though. I find no difference in the specs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125218

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:41 PM   #23
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BTW, will all the parts fit into the case I picked out?
Yes.

To help you decide between those power supplies...Antec power supplies are much better quality than XClio.

Which 6800 are you looking at? The page you linked to lists 71 6800 video cards.

Check out this web site: SLI Zone

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Old 12-14-2005, 09:54 PM   #24
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Oops. Sorry heres the links to the two cards. i think they are the same but they are priced a little different. BTW I was looking at reviews at the ati card and that 6800, and the x800 i have chosen did better. But I am sure once I SLI it would be worth it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130258

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125218
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I'd go with the eVGA video card...eVGA is sort of nVidia's in house video card maker.

And really, those reviews on Newegg don't mean anything. Most of those guys don't know what they're talking about.

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Hmm.. I was looking at the sli zone site, and it says there are preferred SLi ram. Bu it says intel only. Do I have to change my ram? Will my computer not function correctly if I don't use that ram? Or is a SLI motherboard, and SLI certified power supply all thats needed. OH yha btw. To SLI, do I just stick another card in the second PCI slot?
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I'd go with the eVGA video card...eVGA is sort of nVidia's in house video card maker.

And really, those reviews on Newegg don't mean anything. Most of those guys don't know what they're talking about.

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Wow, the 6800 is great. BTW which one should I get? Were they the same card? Oh and the 6800 os had 39 framerates on Quake 4 (1660x1200 res 4xAA, and highest settings. looked at a site.)

Oh, sorry Cricket and everyone else. That must have been reallyannoying. Well, thanks for all your help everyone. I should be ready to order. I just want to know one thing. How would I safely remove my motherboard, video card, etc from my hardrive. Do I have to get into bios? Or can I just remove them. I am pretty sure I can't do it lke that with the motherboard, but I know the video card is removed like that.

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Old 12-14-2005, 10:06 PM   #28
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Only components that pass NVIDIA SLI certification can be called "NVIDIA SLI Ready." Be sure to look for the NVIDIA SLI Ready logo when buy components for your NVIDIA SLI PC.

This is from the slizone site. My motherboard doesn't say SLI ready. Does this mean its not tested by Nvidia? If so, then does anyone here know of a good SLI motherboard that has the SLI certified logo, for a good price? Close to the one I have. It has to be a socket 939 though.
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The ABIT SLI motherboard will be fine.

And please use the Edit button to add to your previous posts instead of making new posts every few minutes.

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Antec power supplies are much better quality than XClio.
They probably are, but this Xclio 450W is so quiet, unbelieveable. I don't think I've ever heard anything as quiet. My old rig's psu compared to this is like WOA. I can actually sleep with my computer on. THis is the one I'm using
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189003 they may not be the best but i hear they are the most efficient.
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