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12-19-2005, 09:04 PM
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Newbie Build Help
OK so this will be my first build and I was wondering if any of you can confirm if this stuff will work together and maybe some better stuff? Im trying to stay at 1500 - 2000 CNDs more towards 1500 lol and its just a little over that with this stuff. And im in Canada so i cant use newegg to get such cheap stuff I dont think? So this site hopefully will do, anyways heres the stuff:
Ultra UV Wizard Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with UV Reactive Clear Side, Front USB & Firewire Ports and Ultra X-Connect 500-Watt Power Supply http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...=TC3J-ULT31742 Chaintech VNF4 nForce4 Socket 939 ATX Motherboard and an AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.40GHz Processor http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...MBM-VNF4-3800R Seagate / 300GB / 7200 / 8MB / ATA-100 / EIDE / OEM / Hard Drive http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...2&sku=THD-300A Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live 24-Bit PCI Sound Card (Retail Box) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...4&sku=C44-1010 XFX GeForce FX 5500 / 256MB DDR / AGP 8X / VGA / DVI / TV Out / Video Card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&sku=P450-8536 Corsair TWINX Platinum Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR Memory (2 x 512) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...2&sku=C13-5610 LG L1951S / 19" / 12ms / SXGA / 1280 x 1024 / Silver-Black / LCD Monitor http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...-L1951SSN%20CA Logitech Z-3e / 2.1 / 40W / Black Wood / Silver / PC Multimedia Speaker System http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...6&sku=L23-6328 BTW not really looking for much upgrades or anything mostly just to know if it works  thanks
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12-19-2005, 09:25 PM
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thats a PCI-E mobo and an AGP video card, youll need PCI-E video card, other than that, it looks good to me
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12-20-2005, 10:01 AM
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Ultra PSU: Kind of shaky. Better, Antec
Chaintech Motherboard: Same thing. Better, ASUS Sound Card: New motherboards usually have pretty good integrated 8 channel sound, you might want to try it before you get a card. RAM: The Value Select line will be fine and cheaper. You really only need the high end stuff for overclocking. Floppy Drive: You are likely to need one during the setup to load drivers, SATA controllers, bios updates, diagnostics, system recovery etc.. Operating System: Get the OEM version, it will be about $100 less than the retail one. Hard Drive: Is IDE ATA100 and only 8 Mb cache, look at the 16Mb cache SATA models. Seagate or Western Digital. Optical Drive/s: You will need at least a CD/ROM. Liteon is a pretty good brand and ships with the burning software.
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12-20-2005, 10:05 AM
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I'd stay away from the PSU and motherboard too. For the PSU, a lot of people have recommended the XClio 450 Watt supply. I just purchased one for my new build, although I can't comment on it yet since I haven't completed it. Chaintech is not the best motherboard brand; you can definitely do better.
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12-20-2005, 06:47 PM
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12-20-2005, 10:56 PM
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Asus A8N-E nForce4 Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...Tab=2&NoMapp=0 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 / 256MB DDR / PCI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...0540&CatId=319 Corsair Value Select 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...?EdpNo=1170139 Western Digital / Caviar SE 16 / 400GB / 7200 / 16MB / SATA-150 / OEM / Hard Drive http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&sku=TSD-400KD Ultra / X-Finity / 500-Watt / ATX / 120mm Fan / SATA-Ready / SLI-Ready / Titanium / Power Supply http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...6&Sku=ULT31844 Lite-On / 52x32x52x CD-RW / Black / CD Burner http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...8&sku=L12-1018 Also ... I already have a FDD but do I need to get a new one for the OEM version OS at all or can I use my one I have ? And anyways does this stuff work together? (mainly concerned about mobo, and if I can use DDR2 RAM or not cause Im using a 184 pin and it looks like DDR2 RAM needs 240 pins?) and also if my HDD will work with the mobo because it says something like the mobo supports ATA/133 but the HDD is ATA 150 :S and I cant find one that is ATA 150 unless their really expensive, lol. Sorry but im a big newb :P and can someone please help me 
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12-20-2005, 11:00 PM
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Oh and BTW ... the processor is AMD 64 3800+ if I didnt mention that and I took away the soundcard from the original list because apparently I dont need it
@jayb1234 should I stay away from Ultra PSU's completely or is it just the one type that sucks, because in my new list it was always an Ultra and I will get another brand if you think they arent too expensive or something, thanks |
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12-21-2005, 02:58 AM
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RAM: No you can't use the DDR2, that is only used on Intel based systems.
Hard Drive: No problem there, The ATA133 refers to the IDE connections, not the SATA connections. That board has 2 IDE channels that will support 2 devices each ( hard drives or optical drives) and 4 SATA connectors for the SATA hard drives. PSU: The second one should work ok, but isn't the best brand, But I don't know what brands you can get up there. Looked at the tigerdirect site and they dont have much of a selection. If you can Find an Antec or Enermax, they would be better, otherwise that ultra should be ok. Floppy Drive: you can just hook the old one up outside the case if you dont want to install it permanantly . Here is the list of approved Corsair RAM for that motherboard from the ASUS site. IF you scroll through the box at the bottom of the page there are some other modules there. A8N-E page at ASUS
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12-25-2005, 10:47 PM
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OK .. so here is my new full list:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ / 512KB Cache / 2000 MHz FSB / Socket 939 / Processor with Fan http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...1-A64-3800%20E Asus A8N-E nForce4 Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&sku=A455-2115 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 / 256MB DDR / PCI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...0&sku=B52-1022 Corsair Value Select Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory ( 2 x 512MB ) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...5&sku=C13-4911 Premium 2531 Blue ATX Mid-Tower Case with an Ultra 600 Watt X-Finity PS and Cantech Keyboard & Optical Mouse http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&sku=TC3J-2046 Maxtor / DiamondMax 10 / 300GB / 7200 / 16MB / SATA-150 / OEM / RoHS Compliant / Hard Drive http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...sku=TSD-300M16 Yeah .. soo I hope that Maxtor drive is decent cause its a pretty good price I think and also the case with PSU and mouse and keyboard thats a really good price (maybe not the best PSU but awesome price) anyways Im just wondering if all this stuff will work (is the graphic card decent enough?) .. dont really need a 400gb HDD so no to that and Im gonna use the same monitor and already have the CD drives and FDD and OS, etc. BTW if anyone lives in Canada do they know of some better deals for stuff? thanks
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12-25-2005, 11:07 PM
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What are you going to do with this computer? Any particular reason why you have a high end CPU, but a low end video card?
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12-26-2005, 11:34 PM
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Lol I never really thought about that blue ... I knew it wasnt that good but I didnt really think its low end
... but anyways I only am really wanting to use that one cause its cheap kinda and because I dont plan on doing that much gaming since I havent really got into any modern games lately. But if I do do you have a suggestion as to what kind of card to get that is less than 200 and is decent?Also ... the kind of computer it will be is just basically instant messager, browsing the net, using Word and a little gaming dont really need thaat much graphics since currently Im playing games with pretty bad graphics Soo I do want one to be pretty fast thats why I want the 3800 processor but do you think I will even need that much? Also 1gb of RAM seems good enough anyways and is the processor good? Because its a decent price and I wasnt sure if Maxtor is reliable, anyways any help would be thankfulBTW I got my monitor today :P its a Metro 19' and it was only like $290 so i thought that was a good price but Im now thinking 19' might be to big and 17 might be ok since its cheaper too lol but im not sure yet |
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12-27-2005, 12:07 AM
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Yeah, you won't need a fast video card then...it's not a bad card, it's just old compared to the CPU. If this is just going to be a internet machine, I don't think you need something like the 3800+, you could probably get a way with a 3500+ or a 3200+
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12-27-2005, 01:15 AM
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OK thanks a lot man ... but would a 3500 + be good enough for modern games still or somewhat anyways? Cuz ill be doing some gaming just not so hardcore, thanks
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12-27-2005, 01:44 AM
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Another question: do you need OEM Windows XP OS for an OEM HDD? Or can you use retail or possibly the CD that comes with a prebuilt system like my crappy Celeron?
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12-27-2005, 03:38 AM
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12-27-2005, 10:57 AM
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12-27-2005, 11:59 AM
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good a sub 200 vid cards would be this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...645784&CatId=0 ill serve u many years of mid-end gaming
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12-27-2005, 03:43 PM
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OK thanks a lot guys
@ nicolaus ... yeah in Canada that card is like 250 bucks so I think thats too expensive and I think this one is good enough: XFX GeForce 6600 / 256MB DDR / PCI Express / SLI / DVI / VGA / TV-Out / Video Card http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...&sku=P450-7276 Also ... I dont know with that video card if I should stick with the 3800 or go down to the 3500? Because the 3800 is a duel-core and the 3500 is venice cord sooo is duel core for 2 HDDs or what exactly and would I even need it? Just wondering thanks |
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