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12-26-2005, 05:22 PM
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Case troubles
I recieved a bunch of brand new parts for christmas for a new PC that i am currently trying to build. After I had finished assembling it in the case it did not boot up. A green LED was lit on the motherboard so i took everything out and followed your tips to get the bare bones boot up. It worked, but now i'm concerned that I'm going to have the same problem when i put the mobo back into the case.
The components that came with the case were unlike ones i had previously seen, instead of brass or metal grounders that the mobo sits on it came with plastic spacers to put in the raised mounting holes underneath the mobo where there wasnt a screwhole in the mobo. I hope that made sense. This set up obviously doesnt work as i think it was shorting out when i previously tried to set it up. The instructions that came with the case are dismally bare. I was hoping a vet could share some quick fix tips that would avoid the shorting or if anyone else has experienced this particular problem please let me know how you fixed it. I would prefer not to buy a new case... many thanks |
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12-26-2005, 05:28 PM
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Take some comfort in the fact that its only your case setup preventing you from making this work.
Even though you've been supplied with plastic spacers, you should only install spacers below screwholes in the motherboard. I assume you have been supplied with the brass types for this purpose. Freakitchen
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12-26-2005, 05:33 PM
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im afraid thats just the problem. I wasnt supplied with any type of brass spacers does this mean that i'll have to go out and buy some? The case came constructed with raised mounting holes. Does this make a difference? I'm afraid that if I add any more space my board wont line up flush with the IO panel.
thanks for the quick reply too i appreciate it. |
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12-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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By raised mounting holes, do you mean a slight 'bubble' effect raising the hole up slightly? This is the only setup i can recall seeing - i've never seen a case that wouldn't expect you to use the brass standoffs on top of these, and they certainly shouldn't make your board so high as to go higher than the IO panel.
Regarding the I/O, i assume you've swapped out the generic plate that came with your case, with the correct one that came with your motherboard? Freakitchen |
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12-26-2005, 05:51 PM
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Yeah, the raised mounts are pretty much just bubbles in the metal. I was surprised too when i wasnt provided with the metal mounts but the dismal instructions say nothing about them and they were nowhere to be seen.
And yes i swapped out the IO panels. |
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12-26-2005, 05:52 PM
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What case are we talking about here?
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12-26-2005, 06:00 PM
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as far as i can tell the brand is White Box
and now i'll just rattle off anything i see on the box. Mid ATX case CAS-103 mid tower structure, all metal, 2x built-in front USB 2.0, 2x built-in front audio ports, Prescott ready. 450W power supply 4 5.25" drive 5 3.5" internal 2 3.5" external 7 PCI slots |
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12-26-2005, 06:06 PM
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thats it
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12-26-2005, 06:11 PM
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Have a good look at the rear of the motherboard and make sure that when the motherboard is mounted directly on the "bubbles" only the exposed copper around the screw hole of the motherboard will be in contact with the case and use plastic stand off's where ever you have a screw hole in the motherboard but no corresponding hole (bubble).
Assemble your machine using the least amount of components and DO NOT connect up the front case header cables to the motherboard, once you have it all built up again see if your machine will start up using the "short the switch pins with a screw driver" method. It is possible your "On" switch on the front of the case is negative switching and therefore shorting your motherboard to the case.
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12-26-2005, 06:13 PM
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ill definately try that thanks for the suggestion, but even if my front switch is causing the problem wouldnt i still need to buy a new case? It doesnt seem practical to stick a screwdriver in my machine every time i want to boot up.
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12-26-2005, 06:15 PM
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There are ways around it, just find the cause of the problem first.
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12-26-2005, 06:26 PM
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huzzah! she lives! in the case!
You might be right about that switch I'll have to test it out. Thanks for all the help guys. EDIT: the switch works now. I have no idea what was wrong earlier but it seems ok. Thanks again |
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12-26-2005, 06:29 PM
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OK before you start a lap of honour around the neighbourhood, lets see if we can suss what the problem was.
Connect the front header one item at a time rebooting as you connect each one. |
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12-26-2005, 06:52 PM
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Haha I'll do that lap after i've conquered the daunting task of installing windows.
 Turns out i was putting my USB cables in backwards.Anyway thanks again for all the help, couldnt have done it without you guys. |
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12-26-2005, 06:57 PM
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Not glad you had a problem but very glad you found the cause, you can read all the books you want but nothing beats hands on experience.
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12-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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Best of luck with the rest of the build.
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