plz help with new build

[jase874]

hi, im wanting to build a new computer,ive only just finished building my first build but it needs to be faster so i can run games on full graphics with no problems and so it will be able to keep up with future games also,i am willing to spend almost any ammount of money but will probablly need to buy a part and save up,buy a part and save up etc. i would like it to last me a long time so i will need loads of help so if your willing please i wud be very grateful,thanks

[Amazin Caucasian]

are u doing a complete new build or an upgrade? what games do you play? do you want a dream machine or just one that will run all your games maxed out fine.

[jase874]

a complete new build and i cant afford a dream machine but 1 tht will run all the new games and the ones up and comming on full graphics with no problems,i play battlefield 2 SF, F.E.A.R, C & C generals, sniper elite, brothers in arms, and NFS most wanted.i need a NEW build because i want,dual graphics motherboard, PCI-Express graphics cards [2 @ 512Mb] im not sure if u can get dual processors or not but im also not sure if they are a nacesity for gaming,and i wud like 4 slots of RAM.

[freakitchen]

First thing to do would be to get a budget in mind. Try and conver that roughly to dollars (i see you're in England) and search the forums for that amount. Recent posts should give you an idea of parts you can achieve within your budget.

Freakitchen

[jase874]

about 1000$, my mate has just got his computer tonight and it costed about 1000$ and it is capable of wot i am lookin to build.

[flanzig1]

To save a few dollars, reuse components from your existing machine like case, drives,etc. You will want to add a SLI certified PSU to your list.

[kosova]

So mate, do you even know who you prefer...AMD or Intel.
Second, do you have any parts you can reuse (monitor, mouse, keyboard)
is this build only the case (whats in the box) or everything.

[jase874]

can u tell me which wud be better plz...a Nvidia 512MB Geforce 6600 128-bit DDR2 PCI-E Graphics Card [78£], or ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI-E [340£]

[blue60007]

The X1800XT by a long shot. Just look at the price.

[jase874]

which is better for the money wud u say? and wud the cheaper 1 run the best games on full graphics do u know?

[blue60007]

I'd say get something in between. The 6600GT may not give you enough, but the X1800XT is probably too much. Look at a 6800GT or 7800GT, an X800XL or an X1800XL, they are kind of the middle of the road (best bang for the buck right now). All depends on how much you are willing to spend on a video card. Personally, I wouldn't spend $550 (~340£) on a video card, but I would pay more than $150 (~[78£).

[jase874]

i have decided on the SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X1800XL 256MB PCI-E [250£], and just need to decide on a mobo,memory,CPU if u can help me with anything else tht wud be great thankyou

[kosova]

Originally Posted by jase874 i have decided on the SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X1800XL 256MB PCI-E, and just need to decide on a mobo,memory,CPU if u can help me with anything else tht wud be great thankyou

Like I said, intel or Amd

[jase874]

sorry AMD

[blue60007]

I'd say for the motherboard, an ASUS A8N-E, the CPU - 3700+, the RAM - at least 1 gig of Corsair Value Select (DDR400) (get a dual channel kit).

[jase874]

i have now found a foxconn AMD 939 socket SLI gamers mobo for 80£,wot do you think? and thats to go with the SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON X1800XL 256MB PCI-E graphics card. thankyou for all your help so far

[blue60007]

Foxconn isn't a recommended brand. I'd stick with ASUS boards to save yourself some headaches. Keep in mind if you get a SLI board, you'll want to get a SLI-Certified power supply.

Oh, what am I saying? Don't get a SLI board with an ATi card, you can't run dual ATi cards in a SLI board. You can run a single ATi card on a SLI board though, but it'd be silly to get the SLI board.

[freakitchen]

Don't know where you're planning on shopping for these parts jase874, but I'd recommend browsing www.overclockers.co.uk, they have overtaken ebuyer in my estimations recently and stock a good range of higher end parts - particularly quality power supplies.

If you want to go SLI, then you need to go Nvidia for your graphics card. I'd recommend the 7800GT (around £200). If you're keen on ATI, then you may as well get a non SLI board...check out the Asus A8N-E.

Freakitchen

[jase874]

could please explain what SLI mobo's are? and are they say better than non SLI mobo's?

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by blue60007 Foxconn isn't a recommended brand.

Actually, glc mentioned in another thread that Foxconn is one of the manufacturers for Intel motherboards and that their system assembler has been using Foxconn motherboards with pretty good success (their system assembler is quick to change suppliers if the parts they're using starts to give them any problems). Foxconn might be worth a look now.

Cricket

[jase874]

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939)£132.95

BG BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)£199.95

Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 250GB 2500KS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM £69.95

Seasonic S12 600W Silent ATX2.0 Power Supply £74.95

Gigabyte K8N SLi nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard £59.95

Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 CAS3.0 £54.95

total inc. VAT £696.43 [1,201.65 USD]

this is a list me nd my mate have made in the past 5 hours,could you please
help me by telling me if they are all compatible with each other and whether its suitable for a gaming pc???

[blue60007]

Originally Posted by Cricket Actually, glc mentioned in another thread that Foxconn is one of the manufacturers for Intel motherboards and that their system assembler has been using Foxconn motherboards with pretty good success (their system assembler is quick to change suppliers if the parts they're using starts to give them any problems). Foxconn might be worth a look now. Cricket

Huh, well now I know. Thanks for the heads up!

jase, looks good so far - but you should go for a 1GB dual channel kit (2 x 512MB modules). And don't forget an OS (like XP Home OEM).

[jase874]

[blue6007] i did take a look at the foxconn mobo's and did find one but with the parts i have got already it meant i was on a very tight budget so i had to go with that cheaper alternative,trust me i did not ignore u on your advice we spent hours looking and reading but money started comming into it so the cheaper board it was, but thankyou for the suggestion. ive still got the OS [xp] from my first and last build, and i have ran out of money so im gunna havto use my old memory for the time being which is 2 1Gb modules i think they're PC3200 but im not sure, thankyou for all the advice it has helped me loads and now i just need to buy it and biuld it, the fun part!

[blue60007]

You can't use Win XP on more than one machine. You need to purchase another copy to stay legal.