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01-15-2006, 04:06 AM
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Another NOOBIE pc builder with a few questions for the PROS
Ok guys I have went shopping for some parts to build a new gaming pc.....Here is what I have so far with the prices listed beside them....I am on a budget and didnt want to spend over 700 but it looks like i may have to to get what I want.....do i need to buy anything else to go with this setup such as fans, cables, etc.
tell me what you think of this system...thx in advance My Shopping Cart Rosewill R214P-BLK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400W ATX with P4 support, 20-pin Main connector Power Supply - Retail CF11147007 $30.49 $30.49 MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CF13130491 $82.99 $82.99 XFX PVT43GUDF3 Geforce 6600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail CF14150099 $170.99 $170.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA3800BVBOX - Retail CF19103562 $322.00 $322.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail CF20145505 $83.19 $83.19 Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JB 200GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM CF22144129 $88.29 $88.29 AOpen KB-966B 2-Tone PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard - Retail CF23144006 $10.99 $10.99 AOpen O-35G 2 tone 5 Buttons 2x Wheels PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail CF26156007 $11.49 $11.49 LACIE Black IDE w/LightScribe Technology Model 300980 - Retail CF27187041 $74.99 $74.99 SUBTOTAL PRICE $875.42 TOTAL SHIPPING & HANDLING $ 33.00 TOTAL AMOUNT: $908.42 |
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01-15-2006, 04:49 AM
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The PSU in That case is generic Junk. You should get an ATX 2.0 PSU from a reputable maker like Antec or Enermax. You will get plenty of cables with the parts, You need to get an Operating System and might need a floppy drive during the setup.
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01-15-2006, 09:02 AM
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You should get a dual channel kit instead of a single module for the RAM
That's an awfully expensive burner for that budget...if you don't need the fancy one, you could save a few bucks by getting a basic one.
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01-15-2006, 09:04 AM
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Thx for the reply
I already have win xp from my old pc I can use with the new one.
I will add a floppy just in case i need it. As for as the case and power supply are concerned is there a power supply i could get to go with that case because i like the way it looks. What about the fans...do they come with the parts also? thx for the feedback |
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01-15-2006, 09:07 AM
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I really wanted the burner with the litescribe technology....i know its about 30 bucks more but what can i say...hehe
is there an advantage to getting the 2 512 ram rather than the 1 1gig? thx |
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01-15-2006, 09:09 AM
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Keep in mind you can only use Win XP on one computer - you can't use it again, unless you are dismantling that one.
You can use the case if you want, but that power supply is a piece of junk. You can't really see the power supply and it's nothing special. Like Jay said, get an Antec, Enermax, or Seasonic, Forton Source (FSP) and XClio. It must be an ATX 2.0 unit (24 pin main connector). Sure, you can get that DVD burner if you you want...just didn't want you to waste your money on something you weren't going to use. Getting the dual channel kit (2x512MB) will allow you to run it in Dual Channel mode, increasing bandwidth. While not as a big of a deal with an AMD system (compared to Intel) it'll still increase performance. Oh, after reviewing your build again, I would consider getting a cheaper CPU and a faster video card. That video will hold you back... I'd maybe get a 3700+ and then you might be able to get a 6800GS or GT - which will perform better than the 6600GT. Last edited by blue60007; 01-15-2006 at 09:13 AM. |
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01-15-2006, 09:44 AM
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Thx again for all this info...I am in the process now of searching for these other items
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01-15-2006, 09:53 AM
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what brand of the 6800gs would be the best...or does it matter....
xfx evga gigabyte msi |
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01-15-2006, 10:22 AM
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Ok I am having a hard time finding a decent priced case and power supply to match those brands and needs........if anyone can put me on a link with a good price i would surely be thankful
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01-15-2006, 10:46 AM
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01-15-2006, 10:55 AM
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OK here is my new system choices....let me know if this will be ok
also what will be the performance difference between the 3700+ and the 3800 x2 My Shopping Cart QTY. ITEM & DESCRIPTION ITEM# PRICE TOTAL ENERMAX Pandora CA3030-BS Black/Silver 0.6mm SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Power UP 400W 24Pin Power Supply - Retail CF11124113 $69.99 $69.99 MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CF13130491 $82.99 $82.99 XFX PVT42GUAD7 Geforce 6800GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail CF14150118 $201.99 $201.99 AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail CF19103539 $214.79 $214.79 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail CF20145505 $83.19 $83.19 Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JB 200GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM CF22144129 $88.29 $88.29 Saitek Gamers' Keyboard PZ08A 2-Tone USB Wired Sleek contemporary Keyboard - Retail CF23175101 $43.49 $43.49 AOpen O-35G 2 tone 5 Buttons 2x Wheels PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail CF26156007 $11.49 $11.49 SONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DW-Q30A BK - OEM CF27131264 $38.99 $38.99 SUBTOTAL PRICE $835.21 |
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01-15-2006, 11:55 AM
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I would say eVGA is the best brand for video cards. Don't forget the dual channel kit for RAM.
You should get a SATA hard drive...it's the newer technology. As for the case/power supply - I don't think Enermax puts an Enermax power supply in that. Way too cheap. I looked at the specs, and I don't think it's an ATX 2.0 - it doesn't have dual 12V rails either. It also isn't going to be powerful enough, its a little weak in important areas. Here's an excellent case with an excellent power supply for this system. As for the CPU - unless you are going to do heavy multitasking, the 3700+ will be better. It's single core has a higher operating frequency, and twice as much cache as each core of the 3800+ X2. Also, for gaming the video card is more important than the CPU, so in getting the X2 you had to cut the video card back, which would probably hurt performance rather than help it. Last edited by blue60007; 01-15-2006 at 11:58 AM. |
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01-15-2006, 02:51 PM
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Thx for all this good info....I will take all this advice and finish putting this cpu together by tonight and order it all up when i get a chance later tonight
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01-15-2006, 10:58 PM
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Well guys I want to thank all who has helped me in my search for a quality gaming pc at a decent price. Here is what I ordered and the final cost.
If I had ordered it all at ChiefValue.com i would have spent $949.70, however I found a few different sites that saved me a total of $44.42. My total for this PC comes out to TOTAL PRICE $905.28 If I left out something please let me know...cuz i may have forgot something im just a noobie  My Shopping Cart QTY. ITEM & DESCRIPTION ITEM# PRICE TOTAL Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply - Retail CF11129155 $99.84 MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CF13130491 $82.99 eVGA 256-A8-N387-TX Geforce 6800GS 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail CF14130002 $200.47 AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail CF19103539 $214.79 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail CF20145440 $82.49 SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Windows 98SE/ ME/ 2000/ XP - OEM CF21103203 $8.50 Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM CF22144417 $99.49 Saitek Gamers' Keyboard PZ08A 2-Tone USB Wired Sleek contemporary Keyboard - Retail CF23175101 $42.99 AOpen O-35G 2 tone 5 Buttons 2x Wheels PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail CF26156007 $9.24 BenQ Black ATA/ATAPI DVD Burner With LightScribe Model DW1655 - OEM CF27101006 $54.99 |
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01-16-2006, 02:20 PM
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Ahhh - one problem. You need a PCI-E video card, that AGP one won't fit. See if you can still cancel that order or send it back once you get it. Other than that, things look in order.
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