Go Back   PCMech Forums > Help & Discussion > Build Your Own PC

Need Some Help? Type Your Keywords Here:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-16-2006, 02:15 AM   #1
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
New comp porblem

Right now, I have completed all of the computer except the bit where you have to connect the PLED and things. I am confused about it, since the manual did not have any good information about it.
Motherboard: MSI KT6sLR???
On the board, it has PLED
My case has a PLED + AND -
And these are only the first of my problems! Any Help would be appreciated!!!
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 09:33 AM   #2
Member (12 bit)
 
not important's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,557
PLED would be PowerLED... The Red wire is +
not important is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 09:57 AM   #3
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
I know. But the thing is my chassis has TWO.
should i just put the + one on? if not, how can i put both on in one pin???
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 10:33 AM   #4
Staff
Premium Member
 
freakitchen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Doncaster, UK
Posts: 3,563
It would appear that your power LED is split into two, one for +ve and the other -ve. The relevant portion of your motherboard's manual will show you the two pins you need to connect them to, and the correct polarity orientation.

Freakitchen
__________________
-FK-
"Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw, The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep,
though poppies grow, In Flanders fields." - John McCrae, May 1915
freakitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 10:43 AM   #5
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
It should, but My manual doesn't... At least I looked at it and it doesn't appear anywhere, that is... so does anyone have a same or at least similar pin problem???
Also, my comp doesn't start when I push the power button. Is it because of my LED problem???

Last edited by gasamonroe; 01-16-2006 at 10:45 AM.
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2006, 11:54 AM   #6
Member (12 bit)
 
not important's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,557
The PowerLED plug just makes the Power LED function. I would assume you do not have the power connector in the correct place on your MOBO.
I found ytour board on MSI site but I can't locate a user manual download?
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...a-LSR&class=mb

Last edited by not important; 01-16-2006 at 12:04 PM.
not important is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 02:13 AM   #7
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
My manual is at this page: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...UID=511&kind=1
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 08:23 AM   #8
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
Also, my comp doesn't start when I push the power button.
Is the switch on the power supply turned on? A small LED on the motherboard will light up when the power supply rocker switch is turned on.

Is the power button connector on the right front panel header pins?

When you say you have two LED connectors, do you mean there is one with two pins and one with three pins? Or do you have 2 one pin connectors? If you have a digital camera, take a picture and attach it to your reply.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 12:03 PM   #9
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
...I can't find a switch... Do all power supplies have a switch? I thought that only the more recent ones did.
Oh, and i'm pretty sure I have the power Switch in the right pins

Last edited by gasamonroe; 01-17-2006 at 12:06 PM.
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 01:37 PM   #10
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
...I can't find a switch... Do all power supplies have a switch?
No.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
Oh, and i'm pretty sure I have the power Switch in the right pins
You can't assume, you must be 100% sure. I looked at the MSI manual and the front panel header pinout is confusing. Double check the connections.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 02:06 PM   #11
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
No.You can't assume, you must be 100% sure. I looked at the MSI manual and the front panel header pinout is confusing. Double check the connections.

Cricket
thx. I have the power + on 6, and power - on 8. Is this correct?
I'll send a picture as soon as I have time. But thanks for your help so far!!!
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2006, 02:47 PM   #12
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
thx. I have the power + on 6, and power - on 8. Is this correct?!
Power what? Power switch? Power LED? Which?

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2006, 02:14 AM   #13
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
Power what? Power switch? Power LED? Which?

Cricket
Sorry!
I meant the wires from the front of my case for the power buttons, and on the manual it has a JPF1 and the manual says on a table, that Power Led pullup on 6, and to GND on 8... is 8 negative??? {I have PLED + and -}
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2006, 09:25 AM   #14
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
If you're trying to hook up the Power LED you have to use the JFP2 header and the + lead should go to pin 5 and the - lead should go to pin 1.

If you're trying to hook up the Power Switch you have to use the JFP1 header and the connector goes to pins 6 and 8 (doesn't matter which lead goes to which pin).

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 01:47 PM   #15
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
If you're trying to hook up the Power LED you have to use the JFP2 header and the + lead should go to pin 5 and the - lead should go to pin 1.

If you're trying to hook up the Power Switch you have to use the JFP1 header and the connector goes to pins 6 and 8 (doesn't matter which lead goes to which pin).

Cricket
Excellent! They are all in the right places... Except Theres nothing when I press th power key. I hear this strange, REALLY high-pitched noise...I think the power supply is bad...
Anyone have an opinion on this?
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 08:08 PM   #16
Member (12 bit)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,509
The PSU could be bad, especially if it is a junk brand like Aspire.
What brand and model is it?
jayb1234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 08:37 PM   #17
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
Excellent! They are all in the right places... Except Theres nothing when I press th power key. I hear this strange, REALLY high-pitched noise...I think the power supply is bad...
Anyone have an opinion on this?
Where is the weird sound coming from?

Sounds like the power supply could be dead.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 11:37 AM   #18
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
Where is the weird sound coming from?

Sounds like the power supply could be dead.

Cricket
I put my ear on top of the case... no sound. I put my ear right behind the power the fan {round back of case} and I heard the noise, and it was REALLY loud.
what should I do???
I am reluctant to spend more money...
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 12:37 PM   #19
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
It does sound as if the power supply is dead at this point. To verify you could install that power supply into another system (home built, no name brand) and see if the system starts up or not. If it doesn't, the power supply is dead.

What brand is it?

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 03:13 AM   #20
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
It does sound as if the power supply is dead at this point. To verify you could install that power supply into another system (home built, no name brand) and see if the system starts up or not. If it doesn't, the power supply is dead.

What brand is it?

Cricket
The power supply came with the case I bought from savastore.com
There was no Brand Name on it... but the box the case came with had "Astro" on it.
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 11:38 AM   #21
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Sounds like it's a generic piece of junk. You should replace it with one of the better power supply brands.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2006, 10:32 AM   #22
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
Sounds like it's a generic piece of junk. You should replace it with one of the better power supply brands.

Cricket

Could it be possible that the motherboard is not working properly?

It seems that everything else is fine... and I am afraid to switch the PSU supply with one from another computer... From what I am
describing, do you think it is broken?
This case, and the psu that came along with it, ARE BRAND NEW!!! Is it really possible for a computer with a generic power supply to go bad this early in it's use? {I put together a computer with brand new parts}
Thanks

Last edited by gasamonroe; 02-02-2006 at 10:39 AM.
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2006, 11:54 AM   #23
this is going to hurt...
Premium Member
 
Kuch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Abilene, TX
Posts: 363
I had the same experience; a brand new case with a brand new crappy PSU. Cricket can tell you that clean power is essential to your system running correctly, and a no-name brand probably doesn’t cut it. Right now, while you’re in the trouble-shooting process, the PSU is the most logical culprit. Luckily, you can get a great PSU from Newegg for about $50.00. I would try to identify the PSU as the culprit before worrying about the MOBO. From the way things sound, the PSU is defective and is probably the cause of your problems.
__________________
I am the push that makes you move.
Laptop: Asus G50V-A2
Kuch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2006, 12:50 PM   #24
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
Could it be possible that the motherboard is not working properly?
Yes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gasamonroe
This case, and the psu that came along with it, ARE BRAND NEW!!! Is it really possible for a computer with a generic power supply to go bad this early in it's use?
Yes.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 03:14 PM   #25
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
Yes.Yes.

Cricket
Well, before I return it to the store,
I didn't try to replace the power supply because: I'm not really good at this sort of thing
I might destroy the good computer I have
I'm A novice...
Is there any other way to test if the motherboord is working???
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 03:24 PM   #26
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
 
Cricket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
The best way is to get known-to-be-working compatible parts and do a quick assemble and see if the system boots up or not. If it does then you know the motherboard is good. If the system doesn't boot up and you know all the parts are compatible and working, then the motherboard is probably dead.

You could try to see if you can get a response from the motherboard by installing just the CPU, heatsink, power supply and PC case speaker and try to boot it up without the video card and RAM...you should get BIOS beeps indicating something is wrong with the RAM and video. If you don't get any beeps then the motherboard might be defective.

Cricket
Cricket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2006, 03:53 PM   #27
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
The best way is to get known-to-be-working compatible parts and do a quick assemble and see if the system boots up or not. If it does then you know the motherboard is good. If the system doesn't boot up and you know all the parts are compatible and working, then the motherboard is probably dead.

You could try to see if you can get a response from the motherboard by installing just the CPU, heatsink, power supply and PC case speaker and try to boot it up without the video card and RAM...you should get BIOS beeps indicating something is wrong with the RAM and video. If you don't get any beeps then the motherboard might be defective.

Cricket

thanks!
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2006, 11:38 AM   #28
Member (7 bit)
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 70
I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Embarrasingly, It turned out it wasn
t a power supply problem. It turned out that the motherboard problem was erm... touching the metal bits of the internal bit of the case. After I found screws that could distance the two apart, I put it together- and the thing turned on..
SO THANKYOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!
Next time, I SHOULD be a bit more aware of the simple problems...
gasamonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Still Need Help? Type Your Keywords Here:


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:54 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2