Power shuts off randomly?

[SpectreT6]

Hey, Im building my pc and when I boot it up, everything sounds fine, but after a while the power will just shut off and I get pissed off because I basically Drained my bank account paying for the computer, This even happened when i was intalling Windows, and when i was in the BIos screen. Now iam not a complete computer geek so keep the answers to a entry builder type. Pleas i need some help here people!!

[kosova]

Welcome!!! What are the specs to the computer??

Is it costum built or brand name (Dell, HP, Gateway etc)

Is this happening after you open a certain application??

[Cricket]

We need to know the complete system specs of this computer. List the parts by brand and model if you know them including the power supply.

Did you buy a retail processor or an OEM? Are you using the stock heatsink/fan unit or an aftermarket one?

Cricket

[SpectreT6]

Gigibite Force 4 SLI Regular Enabled Motherboard

AMD 3200 + 64 Processer 1000FSB

Rosewill 500W Power Supply

2x 512 DDR Turbo Ram

XFX Gforce 6600GT 128MB PCI Express

ATX Case

2X Fans

[blue60007]

Sounds like an overheating problem.

Rosewill power supplies are abesolute junk. That could be your problem. It might just be giving up after it's been running a short time. Also, see if you have enough time to get into BIOS and check your temps (probably under PC Health or something similar).

[jayb1234]

A few things to check.

Are all the wires and cards firmly seated?

If there is a 4 pin auxillary power connector for the procesor, is it plugged in?

Is the Fan/Heatsink assembly securely locked down?

What parts did you use, especially motherboard and Power Supply?

Which 500W rosewill is that?

[SpectreT6]

Originally Posted by jayb1234 A few things to check. Are all the wires and cards firmly seated? If there is a 4 pin auxillary power connector for the procesor, is it plugged in? Is the Fan/Heatsink assembly securely locked down? What parts did you use, especially motherboard and Power Supply?

YEs, Yes, and Yes 4 pin power connecter is connected, heat sink and fan are locked down. Parts listed above

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182004 ---------Power Supply

[SpectreT6]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182004

[Cricket]

That power supply has a 20 pin motherboard power connector...how many pins does the motherboard have? 20 or 24?

Cricket

[SpectreT6]

That power supply has a 20-24 pin, and yes i put it in, the mother board has a 24 pin 24-24 = equal match

[kingsownall]

replace the psu. if blue is correct. thats ur problem. happen to me once(omfg it was the worse and my frd told me i have a crappy psu). so if thats the problem. get a well known psu and ur com be screaming thank you

[Cricket]

Besides the main 24 pin power connection on the Gigabyte (not sure which model you have so couldn't check), is there another 4 pin power connection on it somewhere? If it does, do you have something plugged into it?

Cricket

[SpectreT6]

Originally Posted by Cricket Besides the main 24 pin power connection on the Gigabyte (not sure which model you have so couldn't check), is there another 4 pin power connection on it somewhere? If it does, do you have something plugged into it? Cricket

Here is somepicts of my case, mabe u cant get somethingform there in the other parts of the fourm are some other picts check tghem out too.

http://p3.forumforfree.com/my-picts-...alsoldier.html

[doubledragon5]

Definitiley pick a new PSU from this list... Your PSU is in the bad section...

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195

[SpectreT6]

Just thought I would let you know I traded out the power supply, hoping that was it. It shut down again.
I am assuming the processor to be the next culprit. ANY thoughts?
Spectre T6

[Cricket]

Check the installation of the heatsink and make sure it doesn't look like this. If the heatsink has a recessed section make sure it's over the raised part of the socket.

Cricket

[KilluminatiStyle]

Originally Posted by doubledragon5 Definitiley pick a new PSU from this list... Your PSU is in the bad section... http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195

Do you beleive everything you read? J/K

That list is just a GUIDE and does not mean that everything made by any of the companies listed is automatically golden or garbage.

I'm using 2 Rosewill PSU's and 1 of them I've had for over a year. Rails are strong and it's been a great performer. Don't get me wrong, the list you linked is a great guide to purchasing an excellent PSU but in the world of computers NOTHING is carved in stone.


Spectre, what core is the processor? Maybe the motherboard needs a BIOS update for CPU compatability. Every 939 system I've messed with that didn't support the processor out of the box was VERY unstable much like yours.

[SpectreT6]

Well i dont know what you mean by the core, but i decided to take it apart and this is what i found, a melted thermal pad, i dont believe this is supposed to happen, it wasnt gooey or anyting it was kinda like a caked on dust crap that doesent come off ur fingers, i too some pictures and posted them on my clan site. Check them out here, AMD 64 3200+ 1000 FSB 2.0

http://p3.forumforfree.com/***-proce...alsoldier.html

[doubledragon5]

Originally Posted by KilluminatiStyle Do you beleive everything you read? J/K That list is just a GUIDE and does not mean that everything made by any of the companies listed is automatically golden or garbage. I'm using 2 Rosewill PSU's and 1 of them I've had for over a year. Rails are strong and it's been a great performer. Don't get me wrong, the list you linked is a great guide to purchasing an excellent PSU but in the world of computers NOTHING is carved in stone. Spectre, what core is the processor? Maybe the motherboard needs a BIOS update for CPU compatability. Every 939 system I've messed with that didn't support the processor out of the box was VERY unstable much like yours.

I have faith it what this site gives for advise smart A**.. The psu is alsways my first suspect when a pc starts to ramdom reboot.. I also have seen this happen with faulty ram as well.... Where here to give the best advice possible to help fix problems no one is perfect....

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by SpectreT6 Well i dont know what you mean by the core, but i decided to take it apart and this is what i found, a melted thermal pad, i dont believe this is supposed to happen, it wasnt gooey or anyting it was kinda like a caked on dust crap that doesent come off ur fingers,

Actually, those pictures look normal and it appears the heatsink was installed properly.

Maybe the problem is as KilluminatiStyle mentioned...you may need to update your BIOS to support your CPU.

Cricket

[KilluminatiStyle]

Originally Posted by doubledragon5 I have faith it what this site gives for advise smart A**.. The psu is alsways my first suspect when a pc starts to ramdom reboot.. I also have seen this happen with faulty ram as well.... Where here to give the best advice possible to help fix problems no one is perfect....

I'm sorry if you thought I was being a smart "butt". I did not mean to come across that way. I just wanted spectre to know that the list you linked is in fact a GUIDE to purchasing a new PSU and he should not automatically assume his PSU is faulty or crap just because it's on someone's naughty list. So just relax, have a coke and a smile

Originally Posted by SpectreT6 Well i dont know what you mean by the core, but i decided to take it apart and this is what i found, a melted thermal pad, i dont believe this is supposed to happen, it wasnt gooey or anyting it was kinda like a caked on dust crap that doesent come off ur fingers, i too some pictures and posted them on my clan site. Check them out here, AMD 64 3200+ 1000 FSB 2.0

Could you give a link from newegg or wherever to the EXACT motherboard and processor that you ordered so we can figure out if maybe you do need a bios update?

[SpectreT6]

Originally Posted by Cricket Actually, those pictures look normal and it appears the heatsink was installed properly. Maybe the problem is as KilluminatiStyle mentioned...you may need to update your BIOS to support your CPU. Cricket

Well its a heat pad, and it ozzed over the sides, u cant see that, thats notsupposed to happen, im going to getsome Thermal crap and try that and another fan.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813128306
Thats my motherboard

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by SpectreT6 Well its a heat pad, and it ozzed over the sides, u cant see that, thats notsupposed to happen.

Actually, that's exactly what's supposed to happen. The thermal pad is designed to melt and in the process fill in all the microscopic spaces between the heatsink and the CPU. The excess will ooze out from the sides. Sometimes only a little will ooze out, sometimes quite a bit will ooze out.

Cricket

[SpectreT6]

Well, ok i admit i was wrong, i didnt think a heat pad was supposed to Melt, its a pad, anyway there are small gaps where the heat pad didnt cover, in thoes areas is it possible that the heat transfer wasnt as great, and would thermal greese work better, i baught some, becaue i was goin to need to get it any way, like i said before the CUP temp was at 68C, the thermal greese is supposed to lower the temperature am i right, and my next question, should i get a new heat sink, one that will disipate the heat faster? Or is it not worth it

[doubledragon5]

IMO thermal grease is a lot better than the thermal pad.. A little bit goes a long way.. Make sure you get rid of all the old thermal pad off the cpu and heatsink before applying the grease... Also you apply a small dap on the processor and spread it around to cover all of the CPU... Then reapply the heatsink and fan..

[Louds3]

If it was 68celcius it sure seems like the problem to me, that is waaaaaaay too high. I'm running the same processor as you and when my machine is idle it's around 27-30 celcius, when at full load after gaming it's around 42. cricket recently posted this great link with some do's and don't's about using thermal grease, first link in this post: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.p...thermal+grease

do note that should you ever have to return that processor, you need to clean off the thermal grease and buy a thermal pad because thermal grease voids your AMD warranty.

steve

[glc]

No, only use of thermal grease not on AMD's approved list voids the warranty. If you are at 68C, there's a definite problem with your heatsink installation procedure.

What model replacement power supply did you get? You have a SLI board and you should be using a Nvidia-certified SLI power supply, and Rosewill doesn't have any. At the very least, you need an ATX 2.0 spec unit, preferably with dual +12v rails. Old ATX 1.x units with 20 to 24 pin adapters just don't cut it even with a single video card. I do see that the original Rosewill does meet those specs, it should only shut down if it's defective. A single 6600GT is not THAT hungry a card.

The quality of Rosewill units varies - it all depends who makes the particular one. They have some good ones, and they have some pure garbage. That's why they are not on the recommended list - we can't list every model and say "good" or "bad". I'm beginning to think we need to remove the power supply thread - some of you guys are taking it too literally. It's only a GUIDE, not cast in stone. Heck, I have customers running L&C power supplies with no problems and those ARE garbage.

I prefer this "guide" myself - because the author actually researched the true manufacturers. I won't recommend a unit below tier 3, or below tier 2 for high power situations. Yup - our guide doesn't correspond well to that one. It's not an exact science. Not only that, since it was published, I'd bet that some power supply makers have switched or taken on additional lines - for all we know, the Rosewill RE's may be made by FSP - we just don't know. This may actually be the case - Rosewill rebadges a LOT of AOpen components, and guess who makes AOpen PSU's? (Hint - Sparkle/FSP)

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=4146

[SpectreT6]

Thanks Glc, although i am running a SLI Board i am only running one 6600GT card in it so i dont think its a huge deal, so yeah my thermal greese should be here by the 26th of this month so ill try that and if that doesent work ill get a thermal pad and send it back, now should i ment the thermal pad to the processer again before i send it back?? And i previously put my powersupply in this fourm.

[glc]

The thermal pad doesn't go on the processor, it goes on the heatsink.

[SpectreT6]

Right, duh. Anyway i put the new Silver stuff and after 45 min to an hour the comp shuts down again? *** i dont know anymore im so confused it cant be the CPU because when i started downloading the Windows XP the comp was idleing at 32-33. Now what BIOS?